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Why a quick link and not a carabiner?

razorsharptokill

razorsharptokill

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I noticed that on rappel kits there is a quick link used to secure the rope. Why is this used opposed to a carabiner?
 
The quick links are typically smaller, stronger, and therefore less likely to fail due to side loading...

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Glenn said:
I use a carabiner.
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As do I. If you’re worried about it at all use a quick link or a steel carabiner. I think there is minimal cross loading hitched around a tree. You should mind how it lays against the tree as you climb though. You can also mitigate cross loading altogether by using a rappel ring and a carabiner for the lock but then you have to deal with metal on metal.
 
I agree with the camp that it doesn't really matter for what we do. There's no practical safety concern, IMO. However, I still use quick links in this application since they are cheaper and more compact. They just seem better suited to the task, so that's what I use, even though I probably have a dozen or more carabiners laying around.
 
i use a stainless delta quick link because it is only slightly less convenient but much stronger (for some reason, quick links are rated much lower than what they will do.....there's been a few tests on youtube showing this)

i suppose by that logic, i should use one to attach to my bridge as well....maybe i will
 
Statically, it’s going to be hard to break. If you fall on some slack those forces go up quick and if you are on a sharp edge the stress is going to be high and you have a good chance of breaking. You don’t need to be mindless climbing. Know the risks, mitigate the risks, and go climb safely.
 
dramsey25 said:
can someone help me understand these images?
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They’re pretty straightforward. What exactly are you confused about? @tailgunner was just showing a tech tip from a reputable climbing gear company which shows a carabiner being used in a climbing/rappelling scenario to cinch the rope to the tree. This is identical to how some of us cinch our tether, rappel, and climbing rope to the tree with a carabiner instead of a quick link.
 
gcr0003 said:
They’re pretty straightforward. What exactly are you confused about? @tailgunner was just showing a tech tip from a reputable climbing gear company which shows a carabiner being used in a climbing/rappelling scenario to cinch the rope to the tree. This is identical to how some of us cinch our tether, rappel, and climbing rope to the tree with a carabiner instead of a quick link.
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Ahh… I thought from the color difference in the objects one might be a quick link and the other a carabiner so that is why I asked what point was being made by the photos.
 
Im using a separate tether and feed the entire thing through a figure 8 bite. My rappel rope has a rated carabiner on it. For me it’s just quicker and it ain’t gonna break, no way……used to use a link, but closing it was a pain. If you use a link, be sure to close it all the way ever time!
 
I did not like the quick link (continuous screwing open and close). Additionally using a tether locker to keep it up was annoying.
I've found this as a better option (to eliminate the quick link)for me in my limited experience.




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bfriendly said:
Im using a separate tether and feed the entire thing through a figure 8 bite. My rappel rope has a rated carabiner on it. For me it’s just quicker and it ain’t gonna break, no way……used to use a link, but closing it was a pain. If you use a link, be sure to close it all the way ever time!
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This is what I do as well. I'm using a steel carabiner on my rappel rope.
 
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