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BTaylor said:
I have packed out deer in regular old packs with no waist belt or frame and it sucked. Not as bad as dragging but close. Packed out a bunch of critters in the venture which has a good belt and frame sheet. That pack works really well esp. if you arent packing a critter much over a mile. A legit frame pack makes life monumentally better if you are packing big weight and/or long distance. I wont say perfect but an optimal whitetail specific pack hasnt been built yet imo. If you never pack a deer or legally cant quarter and pack them, then absolutely no, a frame pack is not needed.
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I agree with you on that. I have carried the KUIU pro, horn hunter full curl lite, MR popup and now the EXO K3. Horn hunter has a good idea with their load shelf the way it is and their G3 pack isn’t bad for whitetail, but the frame pack leaves a lot to be desired.
I’m sure packing the stand with the TX5 suspension and hitchhiker attached to the stand won’t be perfect, but I can make do with it.


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Anobody said:
So it’s dual purpose more so than for the stand itself. Starting to make sense
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It's not even really about dual purpose, a frame pack is about hauling a critter out. You can haul a stand or platform a lots of different types of packs or put good straps and/or a waist belt on a stand a strap a pack bag to it. Lots of ways to skin that cat. But if I am planning to haul a critter out, at a minimum I want a pack like the venture with a decent frame sheet and good belt but prefer a frame pack like an exo or kifaru that is built for hauling weight as comfortably as possible.
 
Anobody said:
Do u guys really think u need that robust of carrying method ? Sticks and stand is like 12 pounds. I’ve been using cheap Allen gunslings for years…. Am I missing something
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Bibs, 3.5lbs
Coat, 3.5lbs
That’s another 7lbs right there.

Just depends on hunting approach and situation. Up mountains, in deep, the way I go about it, for me the advantage of a frame isn’t just in packing out game.

I used to haul a LW Sit and Climb with stock straps all about the mountains with my essentials lashed on. Same stand attached to a good frame and it’s far easier.

Take away shoulder straps and belt, and there isn’t much weight to an actual frame. Using a proper frame vice just a nice suspension has a few advantages.

1. Provides back contour (for those whose backs are not flat)
2. Detaches from the stand (no straps blowing in the wind)
3. Hauls game more simply and efficiently

If you go in wearing your outerwear and saddle with a license and knife in a pocket, and that works for you, then maybe a frame isn’t for you. Then again, maybe it is.

I’m thinking of selling my X-Ray, because I‘m grabbing a frame pack every time. Even for my platform/rope sets.
 
Plebe said:
Bibs, 3.5lbs
Coat, 3.5lbs
That’s another 7lbs right there.

Just depends on hunting approach and situation. Up mountains, in deep, the way I go about it, for me the advantage of a frame isn’t just in packing out game.

I used to haul a LW Sit and Climb with stock straps all about the mountains with my essentials lashed on. Same stand attached to a good frame and it’s far easier.

Take away shoulder straps and belt, and there isn’t much weight to an actual frame. Using a proper frame vice just a nice suspension has a few advantages.

1. Provides back contour (for those whose backs are not flat)
2. Detaches from the stand (no straps blowing in the wind)
3. Hauls game more simply and efficiently

If you go in wearing your outerwear and saddle with a license and knife in a pocket, and that works for you, then maybe a frame isn’t for you. Then again, maybe it is.

I’m thinking of selling my X-Ray, because I‘m grabbing a frame pack every time. Even for my platform/rope sets.
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Good point about not having straps and belt flopping below the stand or having to deal with cinching that stuff up before you get in the stand.
 
I don’t attach any straps to mine that can hang down. I carry a kuiu pro 2300. Like many others I pack mine out and it’s nice to have a sturdy pack to do so. I can carry all my gear, stand, deer and gun or bow on one pack and it’s not uncomfortable at all
 
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