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Ditch the Ropeman

weekender21 said:
The appropriate non mechanical industry standard for hanging from a rope is some form of friction hitch. i.e. Prusik, distel, etc. The important thing here is to use an appropriate sized and rated rope for your hitch (NOT a Home Depot special).

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And never trust a friction hitch to keep you off the ground. Always have some sort of stopper knot or direct tie-in to prevent it from slipping more than a few feet if it fails.


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iamcorey said:
And check and dress your knots properly.


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And know your knots and treat them accordingly. (I.e. if you use a distel...remember that it releases if grabbed).

Basically know how any failure is likely to occur, have ut backed up, and be prepared.
 
FWIW, as previously not all ropes play well with others. That was definitely the case with why mine slipped. I have since adjusted them.
 
What sizes Beal Jammy are you all using with the prusik knot and mini kong figure 8? My guess is 35cm but want to make sure before making my order.
 
Nugget said:
What sizes Beal Jammy are you all using with the prusik knot and mini kong figure 8? My guess is 35cm but want to make sure before making my order.
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That’s what I’m using.


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It’s better in terms of safety, bulk and metal on metal.

Convenience it about the same in terms of one handed adjustment. I’m still getting used to grabbing rope below the tender. I like not having to manage slack to let rope out if that makes sense.


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All this weekend I kept grabbing rope below the prusik rather than below the metal tender. Im still used to ropemans but I feel much safer now. I got the 50cm beal when everyone was cutting and distel hitching before it was unsafe ha. I wish I went with the 35cm as to shorten the prusik up a bit.


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I have been setting up my daughter's boyfriend to hunt out of a sitdrag. We have everything but the ropeman. If you can find them, they are 45 bucks or more. Imagine my delight when I stumbled onto this thread. So I sewed up my own simple version. Light, quiet and works like a charm.

Final version uses a much shorter prusik. Basically, a two inch "tag end" so it becomes a short reach and appears to bind quicker.

Good stuff guys. Thank you. Pete


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Peterk1234 said:
I have been setting up my daughter's boyfriend to hunt out of a sitdrag. We have everything but the ropeman. If you can find them, they are 45 bucks or more. Imagine my delight when I stumbled onto this thread. So I sewed up my own simple version. Light, quiet and works like a charm.

Final version uses a much shorter prusik. Basically, a two inch "tag end" so it becomes a short reach and appears to bind quicker.

Good stuff guys. Thank you. Pete


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What rope/cordage are you using for your friction hitch?


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Alright, am I doing this right? Thanks

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Aeds151 said:
All this weekend I kept grabbing rope below the prusik rather than below the metal tender. Im still used to ropemans but I feel much safer now. I got the 50cm beal when everyone was cutting and distel hitching before it was unsafe ha. I wish I went with the 35cm as to shorten the prusik up a bit.


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Why is it unsafe to cut a jammy and tie a friction hitch with it?
 
Torvic said:
Just wondering what type of hitch is that?
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Looks like a klemheist.

https://www.animatedknots.com/klemheist-knot

I tried the klemheist with a jammy around oplux and it was not consistent in staying well dressed and staying tight on the oplux.

That led me to cutting it and using it with a distel hitch. In my experience, distel works much better with this cordage for this use.
 
hokiehunter373 said:
Alright, am I doing this right? Thanks

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Man this reminds me of how I don't love sewn spliced loops for prusiks, except for the strength boost. That plastic sheath takes up so much space! Other than that it looks good - interested to hear how it holds and releases.
 
I worry we may get a cease and desist letter from Wild Country..........lol
It was a Eureka! moment for me when I stumbled on the simplicity of a tender by watching a video on here. I'm glad it's working for others as well.
 
Squirrels said:
Why is it unsafe to cut a jammy and tie a friction hitch with it?
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I want to say he's talking about the ropeman but I could be wrong

Red Beard said:
Correct usage of the Kong mini! Many are using a distel. Please let us know how it tends your klemheist :)
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Yeah I wanted to try out the klemheist first just to see if I could keep the jammy as is instead of cutting it. Just testing it last night the kong tended the hitch better than I could have imagined. Super smooth. I'll test it out at ground height when I've got a chance before I get in a tree but it seems like the only drawback will be keeping it dressed. I'll report back.
 
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