Ditch the Ropeman

[Bwhana]

The adjustment of a tether and needing it to be easy is for the hunters that use Hand Climber Methed and/or 1 Stick Method, such as myself. Also those who transition from sitting to leaning as well as adjusting for how your legs angle away from body to relieve pressure on knees.


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I am also primarily one sticking this season and do not move my connection on the tether. Same for sitting vs leaning, I sit about 60% and set my tether for that, but do not adjust when I stand up to lean. Too many folks seem to being doing for valid reasons, I just don't see the benefit from my experience.

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[Aeds151]

I also adjust for when I add layers in the winter. The list goes on. To each their own I guess.


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[rutjr]

I’m always playing with mine. I use a LWHC and I love my rope man 1. I am also a machinist, 47 years and I have the utmost confidence in it. I really can’t see how it can fail unless you use the wrong size rope.


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[Jbiehn]

So what’s better for our application with oplux, Sterlings 6mm TRC or Beal Jammy? The TRC is rated to 15.5 kN and will require knots and the Jammy for 22kN with no knots (if used as prusik) but the TRC is what Sterling recommends for Oplux. Hmmmmm....

Ive actually used the TRC with distel and the Jammy as a prusik and both hold fine in normal situations. But when you slip a foot with a loose terher or things get weird somehow, what would be safer? Im not sure.

 

[powhound84]

So what’s better for our application with oplux, Sterlings 6mm TRC or Beal Jammy? The TRC is rated to 15.5 kN and will require knots and the Jammy for 22kN with no knots (if used as prusik) but the TRC is what Sterling recommends for Oplux. Hmmmmm....

Ive actually used the TRC with distel and the Jammy as a prusik and both hold fine in normal situations. But when you slip a foot with a loose terher or things get weird somehow, what would be safer? Im not sure.

Neither will break under regular use. I wouldn’t overthink it as long as it bites the rope when wet and you are backing it up.


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[hokiehunter373]

I want to say he's talking about the ropeman but I could be wrong



Yeah I wanted to try out the klemheist first just to see if I could keep the jammy as is instead of cutting it. Just testing it last night the kong tended the hitch better than I could have imagined. Super smooth. I'll test it out at ground height when I've got a chance before I get in a tree but it seems like the only drawback will be keeping it dressed. I'll report back.

Well, I said I'd report back so here I am. Gave it a lot of sits but long story short I just switched it to a distel last night. I didn't have a problem keeping the knot dressed but it was difficult to slide the hitch towards my body. I tried it with less wraps around the oplux but then I had too much distance between my carabiner and the knot. Meaning I had to have the knot all the way against the trunk of the tree, with the tether higher than I like, to be somewhat comfortable in the saddle. No go.

 

[mattsteg]

Well, I said I'd report back so here I am. Gave it a lot of sits but long story short I just switched it to a distel last night. I didn't have a problem keeping the knot dressed but it was difficult to slide the hitch towards my body. I tried it with less wraps around the oplux but then I had too much distance between my carabiner and the knot. Meaning I had to have the knot all the way against the trunk of the tree, with the tether higher than I like, to be somewhat comfortable in the saddle. No go.

Why not just shorten the cord? I always retie/retighten my poachers knots After making and testing the hitch.

 

[hokiehunter373]

Why not just shorten the cord? I always retie/retighten my poachers knots After making and testing the hitch.

The only reason I chose to try a klemheist over a distel is so I wouldn't have to cut the beal jammy. Since it wasn't working and I was cutting it, I'd just prefer to use the distel.

 

[weekender21]

Sat in NC this week with distel hitch on tether and LB. Nothing but positive things to say, the system works great. I really like the OpLux and TRC combination.

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[dalton916]

Sat in NC this week with distel hitch on tether and LB. Nothing but positive things to say, the system works great. I really like the OpLux and TRC combination.

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Dang it.....now I have to buy some TRC to try out.

 

[hokiehunter373]

Update: distel hitch is the bees knees!

 

[Yooper14]

I'm trying out the trc on oplux but I am having a difficult time with it not wanting to adjust up higher by just pulling on the oplux. I have a tender and it seems to be setup correctly just that the distel is too tight. Doesnt wanna budge. If I take a wrap out it wont bite. Little unsure where to go from here.

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[bj139]

I'm trying out the trc on oplux but I am having a difficult time with it not wanting to adjust up higher by just pulling on the oplux. I have a tender and it seems to be setup correctly just that the distel is too tight. Doesnt wanna budge. If I take a wrap out it wont bite. Little unsure where to go from here.

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Ahh. Friction hitches. Ya gotta love em. Better to grab than slip, IMHO. I think it is just the nature of the beast.

 

[Yooper14]

Ahh. Friction hitches. Ya gotta love em. Better to grab than slip, IMHO. I think it is just the nature of the beast.

Everyone else on here seems to have no issues using this combo and a tender. I'm curious why mine is so finicky.

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[bj139]

Everyone else on here seems to have no issues using this combo and a tender. I'm curious why mine is so finicky.

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I am sure someone else will reply. In my limited experience, they seemed to be too tight when I wanted them looser and too loose when I wanted them tighter. On a tether, where you weight them heavily, they will tighten more than you want. On a LB they should work great with a tender.

 

[Tr33_n1nj@]

I'm trying out the trc on oplux but I am having a difficult time with it not wanting to adjust up higher by just pulling on the oplux. I have a tender and it seems to be setup correctly just that the distel is too tight. Doesnt wanna budge. If I take a wrap out it wont bite. Little unsure where to go from here.

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Mine (TRC on Oplux) seemed very tight when I first tied it in and would not bite or loosen right away, but still a one handed adjustment. Normally just a bump with my hand was enough loosen it. I think it takes a little bit to “season” the ropes to what we are doing. After probably the 5th or 6th time I had it in a tree it just works right. Tightens up when I weight it and loosens when the tender hits it. Definitely doesn’t seem to slide as smooth as the Aerohunter Predator rope setup on my lineman but it’s good enough, and way smaller.

 

[weekender21]

I'm trying out the trc on oplux but I am having a difficult time with it not wanting to adjust up higher by just pulling on the oplux. I have a tender and it seems to be setup correctly just that the distel is too tight. Doesnt wanna budge. If I take a wrap out it wont bite. Little unsure where to go from here.

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Are you talking about your LB or tether? What tender are you using? Pictures?

I don’t personally use a tender on my tether, I just don’t move it enough during a hunt. I sat 12 hours one day last week and might have adjusted my tether one time after getting everything set up.

I could see issues with the tether if you were trying tend it. There is much more weight applied in that scenario when compared to the LB.

When adjusting my tether I take weight off by standing on my platform and adjust the knot from the very bottom. It has always easily adjusted by hand. Similar process for lengthening the system. Just make sure all of your weight isn’t on the distel as you adjust it down.


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[Red Beard]

Everyone else on here seems to have no issues using this combo and a tender. I'm curious why mine is so finicky.

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Might you be able to post a picture of your distel setup? I found the distel/tender combo to work best if the paracord loop attaching my tender (mini Kong) and carabiner is extremely short. My distel legs are pretty short as well.

 

[reggoh75]

Might you be able to post a picture of your distel setup? I found the distel/tender combo to work best if the paracord loop attaching my tender (mini Kong) and carabiner is extremely short. My distel legs are pretty short as well.

I am using 9mm HTP for my lineman and tether and pairing it with the TRC 6mm for my distel along with the mini kong.
I did notice the length of the tender loop needed to be short to work the tender properly.
I had longer legs on my distel and when I shortened them my tender wasn't working great.
Once I shortened it up to match the shorter legs on the distel it works very smoothly.
I haven't used a Ropeman but I can't imagine it being any easier than my current setup.

 

[pesqimon]

I often have to manually loosen the hitch before adjusting it on my tether. No big deal. Just take the loop that goes from the top to the bottom and open it up. By the way, I use a schwabich hitch with 9mm HTP and 6mm TRC.