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Ropeman Safety

TheTracker

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Well, hopefully this doesn't progress into a fight. I think everyone here is concerned about the safety of all of our fellow saddle hunters. I just want to be sure I am safe with the ropeman and it sounds like keeping slack out of the line is the best practice. I felt extremely safe Wed with my ropeman climbing on an aider and the one handed operation is a big seller for me.

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You're safe with a ropeman 1 if you pay attention to it and make sure all the slack is out of it, You'd be safer with a friction hitch like a schwabish with 8mm bee line cord hands down. Ive been using 10mm bee line on my linemens belt with a distel hitch and a micro pulley to tend it.

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You're safe with a ropeman 1 if you pay attention to it and make sure all the slack is out of it, You'd be safer with a friction hitch like a schwabish with 8mm bee line cord hands down. Ive been using 10mm bee line on my linemens belt with a distel hitch and a micro pulley to tend it.

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Sounds like more stuff for me to buy! I just want something that frees up easier than the Blake's hitch that comes tied onto the tree strap on the aero hunter. The linesmans belt doesn't bind up like the tether does. I can't get that thing to free up with all kinds of contortion and making ugly faces. Pretty intrigued by the schwabish or distel hitch. At least for climbing.

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TheTracker

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Sounds like more stuff for me to buy! I just want something that frees up easier than the Blake's hitch that comes tied onto the tree strap on the aero hunter. The linesmans belt doesn't bind up like the tether does. I can't get that thing to free up with all kinds of contortion and making ugly faces. Pretty intrigued by the schwabish or distel hitch. At least for climbing.

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What size line is your tether?

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Schwabish and Distel
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DwadeCham

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What size line is your tether?

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I have one that is the original yale bandit that came with he aero hunter and I bought some of the Samson Predator to make a new tether.

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TheTracker

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This is a linemens belt with a knut hitch and a micro pulley to tend it, easy one handed operation to use it.
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TheTracker

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I have one that is the original yale bandit that came with he aero hunter and I bought some of the Samson Predator to make a new tether.

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I think the bandit is 11mm.

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I don't know what rope is used for the Blake's hitch on the kestrel. But I use 8mm Petzl Vector rescue cord and it slides without too much effort. It's fairly stiff stuff. In fact, when I first tie it and pull tight, it's a bit loose. But after hanging from the tether to set the prusik, it slides with moderate amount of friction. I wouldn't even call it challenging. I haven't fallen to see if it would bind tightly with that kind of load.

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TheTracker

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Yes, and I looked and I think the predator is 11.4.

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A 9mm friction cord should work great, A 10mm bee line would work good too. Problem with prusik hitches is they grab too good for any kind of real use, and the smaller the hitch cord the harder they bite.

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bowhunter15

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We just have to be careful to point out the dangers of different techniques. A lot of people come here and buy whatever we tell them. They need to know the risks of any given equipment choice or technique
On some of my videos, I've gone back and pinned comments to the top and the description with additional safety considerations learned since the initial upload. I've used climbing sticks for over a decade and never slipped. So for me, doing some shortcuts is a calculated risk. But for someone watching the video and not realizing it's a risk, they could have serious consequences. So there's an obligation to try and explain where things could go wrong so that people at least know where the dangers lie like you said.

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I've used climbing sticks for over a decade and never slipped. So for me, doing some shortcuts is a calculated risk.

I agree with this comment.

Nothing in the woods is "safe". Some hunters like to play it super safe, while others are a little more confident taking on calculated risk. I tend to be in the latter group. I suppose my profession lends itself to being a bit of a risk taker.
 

DwadeCham

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I am still going to use my ropemans but I may give some of The Tracker's suggestions for actually climbing as well.

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Does your Ropeman now act as a micro pulley to assist you moving your prusik up the tether? I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge-New to saddle hunting and should have paid more attention in Boy Scouts knot tying.... thanks Mike.


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Does your Ropeman now act as a micro pulley to assist you moving your prusik up the tether? I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge-New to saddle hunting and should have paid more attention in Boy Scouts knot tying.... thanks Mike.


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Looks like he's using the friction hitch to backup his ropeman in case it failed.

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Looks like he's using the friction hitch to backup his ropeman in case it failed.

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Absolutely-I was just wondering if it also helps tend the slack out... does it tend to the knot-Do you have to physically move both at the same time? Just wondering if all the advantages of the Ropeman remain?


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Does your Ropeman now act as a micro pulley to assist you moving your prusik up the tether? I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge-New to saddle hunting and should have paid more attention in Boy Scouts knot tying.... thanks Mike.
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If your Prusik is functioning well, you’ll be able to move it easily unless it gets loaded. No, it isn’t more convenient. But running a Prusik ABOVE the Ropeman is the best way to back it up.

But on a tether, simply clip the end of the rope to your saddle. As stated earlier, there’s no reason to take a fall big enough to severe your rope