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Can you build a 1.3 pound stick

g2outdoors said:
I'm really interested to see how this shakes out.

@ImThere - have you figured out your posts or standoffs yet? I'm
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Nah. The machinist I’m working with is having problems with his CNC. I talked to him the other day about the cam cleats, folding steps and the posts I’m think of going with. The standoff’s didn’t even come up. Lol. I’m looking at a 4.5” stand off with a spacer like the muddy hunters But even that’s in the air.
I have way to many irons in the fire!



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redsquirrel said:
Can you post some more close up pics of your sticks? I'm most interested in your attachment of the step to the stick. Can you also post a pic of the rivets you're using?
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We can post some more pics after we test everything independently. We wanted to test the his diy versa button first. Now we are going to test the step without the slot in the back. The rivets are 3/16 high strength aluminum rivets that you can order online
 
20ftup said:
We can post some more pics after we test everything independently. We wanted to test the his diy versa button first. Now we are going to test the step without the slot in the back. The rivets are 3/16 high strength aluminum rivets that you can order online
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That's fine. There are lots of different rivets available. Mcmaster carr doesn't link to specific items so I haven't been able to see specifically which ones you're using.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
What was the size and thickness of the angle used for the step.
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3/16. Too be honest I believe it is overbuilt at that thickness. If we were to do it again I think I would use 1/8 so you don’t have to remove as much material from the step to get the weight down, but that’s a user specific and preference thing.


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20ftup said:
3/16. Too be honest I believe it is overbuilt at that thickness. If we were to do it again I think I would use 1/8 so you don’t have to remove as much material from the step to get the weight down, but that’s a user specific and preference thing.


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Thanks, I will be trying this... Is it 1.5 inch angle.
 
I wondered if you could put the top stick on the top of the stick so the tube carried the weight. for one of the steps.

With holes in the tube you would have a 1.2 pound stick.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
Did you use a pop rivet to secure the standoff too.
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No we used lone wolf bolts to bolt the step and standoff like bh15 and imthere steps. Then We just added a pop rivet to the step to keep it from rotating eliminating the need to slot the back of the step.


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I think you guys are insane and I’m loving this thread. I hope y’all get it figured out. I did run some numbers through a calculator. I’m not sure what everyone has for step length. With a 5 inch step with 300 lbs out on the end of it you will be putting over 1300 lbs of force against your rivet minus whatever friction you get from the metal to metal contact and a little more for loss of leverage because of the 90 degree turn between the fulcrum and the rivet.
 
EricS said:
I think you guys are insane and I’m loving this thread. I hope y’all get it figured out. I did run some numbers through a calculator. I’m not sure what everyone has for step length. With a 5 inch step with 300 lbs out on the end of it you will be putting over 1300 lbs of force against your rivet minus whatever friction you get from the metal to metal contact and a little more for loss of leverage because of the 90 degree turn between the fulcrum and the rivet.
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Sounds like you are smarter than at least me... so gives us your input and criticism. Are you an engineer of these bookmarks.
 
EricS said:
I think you guys are insane and I’m loving this thread. I hope y’all get it figured out. I did run some numbers through a calculator. I’m not sure what everyone has for step length. With a 5 inch step with 300 lbs out on the end of it you will be putting over 1300 lbs of force against your rivet minus whatever friction you get from the metal to metal contact and a little more for loss of leverage because of the 90 degree turn between the fulcrum and the rivet.
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So you are saying these rivets will likely break.
 
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