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Cranford ring of steps and T's - John Eberhart

@redsquirrel is right. I wish everyone would use the same lingo, but "lead", "tether", "main line", "safety strap", etc. are all referring to the rope/webbing that connects you to the tree at hunting height.

"Drape" is the term @John Eberhart uses to describe the length of his "lead". Adjusting his "drape" means he's shortening or lengthening his "lead".

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So shortening his lead is shortening his tether. Got it.


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In the case of using T type screw ins, the lead or tether goes from his bridge to the T.


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Im with G2, I wish we would use the same terms as it gets confusing. I also agree with Dave and John on the hook up location. When I used a prussik knot on my lead I had to use a much higher hook up point on the tree and it was not as comfortable for me.

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Bogle said:
Im with G2, I wish we would use the same terms as it gets confusing. I also agree with Dave and John on the hook up location. When I used a prussik knot on my lead I had to use a much higher hook up point on the tree and it was not as comfortable for me.

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Lead? Lol


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g2outdoors said:
@redsquirrel is right. I wish everyone would use the same lingo, but "lead", "tether", "main line", "safety strap", etc. are all referring to the rope/webbing that connects you to the tree at hunting height.

"Drape" is the term @John Eberhart uses to describe the length of his "lead". Adjusting his "drape" means he's shortening or lengthening his "lead".

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You could make the argument that we're all saying it wrong since the godfather of Saddle hunting, @John Eberhart has been doing this for 30 years!

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g2outdoors said:
@redsquirrel is right. I wish everyone would use the same lingo
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I couldn't agree more. Tether seems to be the "new" word for a tree strap lately. Tree strap, is a far more used term than "tether". So by adding new words can really confuse people. Even on the podcast, it is referenced as a tether and tree strap, which again can increase confusion especially for new saddle users that are listening. Most experienced saddle hunters can quickly understand both terms.
John has always use drape to refer to the length of his tree strap, it all started from the extremely confusing terms Trophyline use.
We call it a bridge, Tropyline called it a Swivel Loop
We call it a Lineman's belt, Trophyline called it a Safety Assist Strap
We call it a Tree Strap, Trophyline called it a Safety Belt

We all need to try and get on the same page, it helps us make saddle hunting a bigger community. Using different terms creates confusion, confusion will keep people from trying saddle hunting. We are still VERY small community and very small part of the Industry. My goal since I started working with saddles has been and always will be "How can I get more people into saddle hunting" from the original Trophyline Videos, thread on Acherytalk, YouTube videos and helping build Aero was all to help get new people into saddles and still is. I would venture to guess that over 80% of the people on here I can't help, most of you guys have done it so long that anything I say you don't already know. I don't try to build the ultimate saddle, use amsteel, ropeman's, crazy mods or DIY things, it helps me stay relatable to the new people coming into saddle hunting.

The bigger we get the more likely we are to have someone develop a platform option for us. There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to get this done, but we just still to small. So the more consistency we can have across the board, the less confusion, the more people we can get into saddle hunting, the bigger we get ultimately leads to more options for us, more options makes it easier for people to get into.

Thanks,
Boswell
 
I've been reading and learning from this site for well over a year now and I find that a lot of the talk back and forth between people who know what they're doing is hard to follow. They speak of ropes and buckets and knots and you name it in terms us newbies are not familiar with. I don't blame them. Fortunately if one is comfortable asking a lot of stupid questions, (ignorant really) there are a lot of good guys on here to answer them.


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We might need a required reading terminology language lingo translation sticky.
I jest a bit, but @g2outdoors note above would be a great start.
Different terms come up quite a bit with lots of other gear. Spurs, spikes, etc -
 
There is an introductory post that I read when I first joined the forum that explained all the terminology. I think Redsquirel posted it. It explained all the different parts of the typical saddle including the ropes and how they were used for safe saddle hunting.
 
Stay tuned- on last weeks podcast G2 and Red discussed some beginners YouTube videos coming later this year!


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With all the YouTube videos it really shouldn't be all that hard for anyone to figure out what people are referring to no matter what terminology they use. The saddle is about as simple as it comes with 3 major parts: a saddle, a bridge, and a tree strap/tether. And the reason why some people used the term tether is because it is a rope not a "strap".
 
tether

[teth -er]

noun

a rope, chain, or the like, by which an animal is fastened to a fixed object so as to limit its range of movement.

the utmost length to which one can go in action; the utmost extent or limit of ability or resources.

I thought the first one was kind of funny!

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Ok. My two cents. Worth almost what ya paid for them.
A tree strap comes with a ladder stand/ lock in conventional stand. 2” strap that you attach your harness to.
We use a tether, a rope that goes around the tree and tethers us to the tree.


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g2outdoors said:
Tether - we're officially calling it a tether. Any other label will cause the perpetrator to be flogged, berated, and publicly excommunicated from the Saddle Community.

*G2outdoors has no right to make this claim and most likely doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Agreed. Red squirrel made this claim already. This will be what comes out in the official saddle hunter terminology in the off season.
 
Boudreaux said:
I couldn't agree more. Tether seems to be the "new" word for a tree strap lately. Tree strap, is a far more used term than "tether". So by adding new words can really confuse people. Even on the podcast, it is referenced as a tether and tree strap, which again can increase confusion especially for new saddle users that are listening. Most experienced saddle hunters can quickly understand both terms.
John has always use drape to refer to the length of his tree strap, it all started from the extremely confusing terms Trophyline use.
We call it a bridge, Tropyline called it a Swivel Loop
We call it a Lineman's belt, Trophyline called it a Safety Assist Strap
We call it a Tree Strap, Trophyline called it a Safety Belt

We all need to try and get on the same page, it helps us make saddle hunting a bigger community. Using different terms creates confusion, confusion will keep people from trying saddle hunting. We are still VERY small community and very small part of the Industry. My goal since I started working with saddles has been and always will be "How can I get more people into saddle hunting" from the original Trophyline Videos, thread on Acherytalk, YouTube videos and helping build Aero was all to help get new people into saddles and still is. I would venture to guess that over 80% of the people on here I can't help, most of you guys have done it so long that anything I say you don't already know. I don't try to build the ultimate saddle, use amsteel, ropeman's, crazy mods or DIY things, it helps me stay relatable to the new people coming into saddle hunting.

The bigger we get the more likely we are to have someone develop a platform option for us. There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to get this done, but we just still to small. So the more consistency we can have across the board, the less confusion, the more people we can get into saddle hunting, the bigger we get ultimately leads to more options for us, more options makes it easier for people to get into.

Thanks,
Boswell
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Is there any new information on the Cranford ring of steps ?


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Boudreaux said:
I couldn't agree more. Tether seems to be the "new" word for a tree strap lately. Tree strap, is a far more used term than "tether". So by adding new words can really confuse people. Even on the podcast, it is referenced as a tether and tree strap, which again can increase confusion especially for new saddle users that are listening. Most experienced saddle hunters can quickly understand both terms.
John has always use drape to refer to the length of his tree strap, it all started from the extremely confusing terms Trophyline use.
We call it a bridge, Tropyline called it a Swivel Loop
We call it a Lineman's belt, Trophyline called it a Safety Assist Strap
We call it a Tree Strap, Trophyline called it a Safety Belt

We all need to try and get on the same page, it helps us make saddle hunting a bigger community. Using different terms creates confusion, confusion will keep people from trying saddle hunting. We are still VERY small community and very small part of the Industry. My goal since I started working with saddles has been and always will be "How can I get more people into saddle hunting" from the original Trophyline Videos, thread on Acherytalk, YouTube videos and helping build Aero was all to help get new people into saddles and still is. I would venture to guess that over 80% of the people on here I can't help, most of you guys have done it so long that anything I say you don't already know. I don't try to build the ultimate saddle, use amsteel, ropeman's, crazy mods or DIY things, it helps me stay relatable to the new people coming into saddle hunting.

The bigger we get the more likely we are to have someone develop a platform option for us. There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes to get this done, but we just still to small. So the more consistency we can have across the board, the less confusion, the more people we can get into saddle hunting, the bigger we get ultimately leads to more options for us, more options makes it easier for people to get into.

Thanks,
Boswell
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John E. doesn't like the term "Saddle". It's a Harness. Lol. Ok, time to change the name to Harness Hunters. RS, get on it.
 
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