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For you guys that rappell down your tree....

Dwade,

Note that Yale Bandit (my favorite tether rope) can be a little bouncy on rappel devices. Not bad on an ATC but I didn't like it as well on my Sterling ATS except in one certain configuration. It was hard to start and stop by tying it off around the horns of the descender.
Fine with an autoblock though
 
DwadeCham said:
Awesome. What rope are you using? And there are options for eye splice, sewn eye, two of each that I really don't understand but I'm assuming I need to thread over the screw link one eye splice? I would lean towards the Yale Bandit for my top unless there is something better that you guys can suggest. Probably won't go for @Erniepower type setup due to my lack of experience although I like it a lot. But feel more comfortable with a larger diameter rope.

And I think I saw you saying you use a figure 8. What are you currently using?
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Here you go.

http://www.saddlehunter.com/community/index.php?posts/29925
 
justsomedude said:
Dwade,

Note that Yale Bandit (my favorite tether rope) can be a little bouncy on rappel devices. Not bad on an ATC but I didn't like it as well on my Sterling ATS except in one certain configuration. It was hard to start and stop by tying it off around the horns of the descender.
Fine with an autoblock though
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So what are you using for your rappel rope?
 
DwadeCham said:
So what are you using for your rappel rope?
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I have a long Yale Bandit tether. It gets me to the ground and it is rated for the ropeman. The 'give' is nice when hanging.
I also have a long 9mm Bluewater static tether. Not rated for the ropeman but it seems to work.

Static line definitely works better
 
redsquirrel said:
I don't understand your picture, it doesn't show what you are talking baout. I understand what you are saying because I do this all the time. I have a climbing line wrapped around the tree and hooked up with a delta screw link. I rappel down the single length of rope, and then pull the screw link down with a piece of paracord I hooked up to it while setting it up.

They make screw links that are climbing rated for those interested, I suggest using those. Here is an example: https://www.amazon.com/Camp-Oval-Quick-Link-Carabiner/dp/B005ULFKAY
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Do you have a picture of this single line method?
 
My new Eagles Nest Molle 2 saddle with a camp matik, a v.t. prusik w/ 8mm beeline, adjustable bridge with the ct rollnlock and a 2 in one buck strap. 40 ft. 1100 para cord for tag line and redirects, 50 ft. 550 para cord for accessories and lifeline retrieval. then a running alpine butterfly on 11mm static with a quickie on the alpine for easy retrieval of my life support tie in point. adjust your bridge to zero belay on the camp matik with anti panic feature and automatic shock load reduction built into the matik. smooth as silk. Do your own research that way you can find what fits your needs the best. If you use the quickie you can do the hand wrap alpine butterfly for easy tie in without the quickie the running alpine butterfly is a little bit harder to tie. if you decide to rig the tree you can leave a hank of 550 para cord for your lifeline tie in from the ground to a cow hitched 1 inch continuous loop with your quickie when you return the next morning you can pull up your lifeline tie a running alpine then ascend the tree using my lone wolf seat. backed up with the camp matik and the V.T. Prusik 5 wraps 3 weaves. Not a cheap way to go but when your life depends on gear making things fool proof is what its all about because we all can make mistakes. that is why I like the camp matik the v.t. prussik, the alpine butterfly and the lone wolf hand climber.
The alpine butterfly is by far a better knot in my opinion than the bowline. although the bowline offers about 15 to 20 % more strength the alpine butterfly is more fool proof. just as is the camp matik over the grigri. and always have a foot loop and a hand ascender for emergencies.
 
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BFI said:
My new Eagles Nest Molle 2 saddle with a camp matik, a v.t. prusik w/ 8mm beeline, adjustable bridge with the ct rollnlock and a 2 in one buck strap. 40 ft. 1100 para cord for tag line and redirects, 50 ft. 550 para cord for accessories and lifeline retrieval. then a running alpine butterfly on 11mm static with a quickie on the alpine for easy retrieval of my life support tie in point. adjust your bridge to zero belay on the camp matik with anti panic feature and automatic shock load reduction built into the matik. smooth as silk. Do your own research that way you can find what fits your needs the best. If you use the quickie you can do the hand wrap alpine butterfly for easy tie in without the quickie the running alpine butterfly is a little bit harder to tie. if you decide to rig the tree you can leave a hank of 550 para cord for your lifeline tie in from the ground to a cow hitched 1 inch continuous loop with your quickie when you return the next morning you can pull up your lifeline tie a running alpine then ascend the tree using my lone wolf seat. backed up with the camp matik and the V.T. Prusik 5 wraps 3 weaves. Not a cheap way to go but when your life depends on gear making things fool proof is what its all about because we all can make mistakes. that is why I like the camp matik the v.t. prussik, the alpine butterfly and the lone wolf hand climber.
The alpine butterfly is by far a better knot in my opinion than the bowline. although the bowline offers about 15 to 20 % more strength the alpine butterfly is more fool proof. just as is the camp matik over the grigri. and always have a foot loop and a hand ascender for emergencies.
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Eagles nest Molle 2? What's this?
 
EAGLES NEST MOLLE2 is my version of a DIY saddle at this point anyways
 
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