Gear Hoist / Lift Attachment

[Cyder]

Hey all, I've been fiddling for awhile with my method of attaching my gear to my lift rope. I was using a 25' section of paracord and tying a knot to lift my bow and untying it when I get it into the tree, but recently I bought a Muddy gear hoist and it is very similar to they Doyle's one. It came with a few flimsy carabiners but I'm trying to DIY a much better option, so this thread will serve a my progress record as well as brainstorming. It may be a small thing but after work hours are short :/

So we already have the knot and simple carabiner option but these have some flaws:

Knots: high fiddle factor, easy to mess up in the dark, some pull lines don't take knots well.

Carabiner: high noise potential, light carabiners are breakable, strong carabiners are heavy (relatively)

Here are some images of what some haul lines come with:

Doyle's Gear Haul:

Flaws: more fiddly than a carabiner but still has noise factor although small. Potential to break esp. in cold temps.

Some Hawk Gear lines:

Flaws: some have reported the rubber wire being too flimsy and coming undone from gear. Although I like this option the most It would need beefing up.

Objectives:
Rock solid gear attachment, fail proof (dropped gear is not an option,) the lighter the better, no noise, usable in the dark.

If you have any input / Ideas please share!

 

[LeanMachine]

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[MettBriler]

I'm using a 24ft dog leash from and tied a vet taped S biner to the end, the leash stays attached to my pack, get to the tree, put my bow down clip to the leash and get climbing. I will never go back to a pull rope.

24 Ft. Retractable Dog Leash

Amazing deals on this 24Ft Retractable Dog Leash at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

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[sweats]

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This is what I do. Not retractable obviously, but definitely gets the job done and is super simple.

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[Cyder]

I'm using a 24ft dog leash from and tied a vet taped S biner to the end, the leash stays attached to my pack, get to the tree, put my bow down clip to the leash and get climbing. I will never go back to a pull rope.

24 Ft. Retractable Dog Leash

Amazing deals on this 24Ft Retractable Dog Leash at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.

www.harborfreight.com

Same with the Muddy retractable gear lift, when using a pull up rope the extra as I pulled it up would get wrapped around all sorts of things, my boot, my pack, some branches, everything. This eliminates that problem as it retracts as I pull it up.

Although I am planning on replacing the line in it with either 95 or 375 paracord or similar utility line.


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[Chickenhawk]

Not trying to hy-jack, but that dog leash is a great idea! Good ideas on this thread

 

[bj139]

My hands have been abraded by using paracord for a pull up rope. I am thinking of pulling everything up at once on the tail end of my climbing rope.
I am currently tying the tail end of my climbing rope to my bow and paracord to my pack. I would also like to raise my pack last and lower it first. I currently do the opposite since my bow hook is attached to my pack so I need some place to hang it after I pull it up. That way, when that deer shows up early first thing or at the last minute of hunting time, I am not looking down at the deer and my bow both on the ground and me up a tree. I guess a hook to raise and lower whichever I decide would work best.

 

[enkriss]

I have been using a Doyle’s gear hoist. Yesterday I lowered my bow down and as soon as my bow touched the ground they Doyle’s attachment came undone.

I am a little worried and trying to come up with ways to mod a new attachment point.

 

[Cyder]

I am a little worried and trying to come up with ways to mod a new attachment point.

Exactly why I started this thread.

To start this process I have first removed the metal clasp holding the loop that was likely to fail as @enkriss experienced. I used a figure-8 knot for reliability. Although I plan to replace the line entirely with Dyneema (such as zing-it)

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[Dobby7]

I use a Doyle's hoist but I cut the plastic connection off. I used a nite ize gear tie to replace it with. Works like a champ and is quiet.

 

[Cyder]

I use a Doyle's hoist but I cut the plastic connection off. I used a nite ize gear tie to replace it with. Works like a champ and is quiet.

What size gear tie? I've seen some in reviews of gear hoists with that feature say that the tie dropped their gear.

 

[Dobby7]

12 inch. I haven't had any issues. I pulled up my bow and pack at the same time with it. You just need to make sure you put enough twists in it.

 

[enkriss]

I was going to just put a loop in the end and run it through my cam/riser/limbs and go over my stabilizer.

 

[Dobby7]

I was going to just put a loop in the end and run it through my cam/riser/limbs and go over my stabilizer.

You might need a big knot on it or the strap might go inside the plastic cover.

 

[MettBriler]

Not trying to hy-jack, but that dog leash is a great idea! Good ideas on this thread

I bought it to see if I liked a self retracting solution and figured If i liked it enough, once It broke I would have confidence in dropping the money for a Doyle's hoist

 

[sojourner]

I have been using a Doyle’s gear hoist. Yesterday I lowered my bow down and as soon as my bow touched the ground they Doyle’s attachment came undone.

I am a little worried and trying to come up with ways to mod a new attachment point.

Doyle’s strap or rope? I am at a loss as how it could come undone. I have the strap version, and, for me, have never had this issue. I am not saying it is not feasible, but when putting together, the weight of what is being hoisted makes the connection tighter.

I usually have my crossbow and daypack attached, so the weight I hoist may be much more than yours.

Glad your bow did not suffer damage.

 

[solo_archer]

I'm using the Doyle's gear hoist, flat nylon strap version and I think it's a great option.

There is stitching on the gear hoist attachment that you can remove and tie a knot instead to ensure it doesn't come apart and I'm including a screenshot below for reference:

https://share.getcloudapp.com/Jruw05ww

It's served me well so far pulling up my bow and backpack at the same time

 

[bj139]

I have a 16 foot retractable dog leash with the strap. Is is worth it to just attach a 10 foot piece of cord to the end to get to 26 feet? The 24 foot retractable leashes are very bulky. the 16 footer I have is medium bulk.

 

[solo_archer]

That sounds like a really crafty idea

Paracord is so cheap that I think you have nothing to lose by trying to DIY this and see how it goes

...Then let us know so we can try it too!

 

[Dobby7]

I have a 16 foot retractable dog leash with the strap. Is is worth it to just attach a 10 foot piece of cord to the end to get to 26 feet? The 24 foot retractable leashes are very bulky. the 16 footer I have is medium bulk.

I think it defeats the purpose of a retractable hoist. Now you would have to manage that 10 foot of paracord.