Gear Hoist / Lift Attachment

[bj139]

I use these. Strong enough for anything I could pull up by hand. Also for gear strap hooks and saddle gear hooks, keys, etc.

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[raisins]

My hands have been abraded by using paracord for a pull up rope. I am thinking of pulling everything up at once on the tail end of my climbing rope.
I am currently tying the tail end of my climbing rope to my bow and paracord to my pack. I would also like to raise my pack last and lower it first. I currently do the opposite since my bow hook is attached to my pack so I need some place to hang it after I pull it up. That way, when that deer shows up early first thing or at the last minute of hunting time, I am not looking down at the deer and my bow both on the ground and me up a tree. I guess a hook to raise and lower whichever I decide would work best.

Yeah, back when I was doing the hand cord thing, I switched to a braided black (speckled white) accessory cord they sell cheap at Censored's Sporting Goods in camping section (if I recall I can't mention Richard's here, or maybe that's hunting beast).

It is around around 1.5 or 2 times thickness of paracord and is grippier because it is a coarser braid. Works 100X better than paracord and doesn't tangle as easy. I also had paracord start sliding in my hands when wet with a heavy pack and I almost couldn't get it stopped without 3rd degree burn, I think I stomped it with my boot.

 

[Cyder]

Go a foot or so away from end end of the line and tie a loop in line but leave the rest of the line as a long tag end. Tie another loop in the very end of the tap end, so you have two knotted loops 6 or so inches apart. Attach the clip/carabiner to the top loop. When you want to connect, snake the tag end through the gear to hoist and then attach its loop to the carabiner/clip (so you now have a large loop held together with the clip). This way, the carabiner/clip never touches gear to make a noise. Also, it makes the setup twice as strong. Let's say your gear to haul is 10 lbs. 5 lbs goes to the side of the line that is a straight shot of cord (except inline loop knot) and the other 5 goes to the side with the clip, so your clip sees half the weight.

Good idea for sure, but how do you keep the carabiner from making noise when the line is slack?

I am DIYing the Mathews SCS system myself it uses a hardware-less loop on the hoist and a bolt with a large head on your bow

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[raisins]

Good idea for sure, but how do you keep the carabiner from making noise when the line is slack?

I am DIYing the Mathews SCS system myself it uses a hardware-less loop on the hoist and a bolt with a large head on your bow

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Good point, I was just thinking out loud and hadn't thought of that! Thanks.

 

[enkriss]

Finally got around to nodding my gear hoist, here it the video: Upgrade Your Gear Hoist with Amsteel

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It doesn’t retract?

 

[Cyder]

It doesn’t retract?

It does, I’m going to add a clip later, I wound too much chordage on it initially so it jammed up. I figured done is better than perfect and I can add a clip of it in action later.


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[ofor]

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This is also the technique I use. I stealth stripped the clips to take care of the noise concern

 

[Weldabeast]

I've had no issues with the factory doyle attachment.....I have a hard time getting it apart on occasions. Maybe u could heat the female side with a heat gun or hair dryer and close it up a bit for better fit. Before the doyle I had 2 times a cheap carabiner fail somehow.

 

[Cgpro21]

I liked the doyles attachment but I had the knot slip and lost the attachment. Replaced it with the gear tie. Works great imo.

 

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[odino]

Sorry but to not make noise it would be enough not to use the carabiners and make a simple Bowline?
Simple, fast and it makes no noise of any kind

 

[Cyder]

Sorry but to not make noise it would be enough not to use the carabiners and make a simple Bowline?
Simple, fast and it makes no noise of any kind

That definitely works (that was my system before getting the hoist) but I bought the hoist because having 25-30ft of cordage in your pack needs to be wound neatly to prevent tangling, is a bit tedious to unravel and re wind every time you use it, and knots are very hard when you are wearing gloves and it's 32ºF. overall it works but I didn't appreciate the cons.

Alternatively with the hoist I'll simply attach it to my bow with my homemade SCS system, climb the tree, pull my bow up, and when I'm done with it it self winds. so there is no maintenance for the gear hoist. At all.

 

[Sziggy2.0]

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Used this method all last year with no issues. Compact, simple, quiet and quick.

 

[DB4x4]

Keep it simple:

I use 30' of paracord. One end has a light wire gate hammock carabiner that gets clipped to a MOLLE loop on my saddle and stays there at all times except when being used to put my SRT/Rappel rope out of a tree. The other end sports a cheap lashing strap from the Walmart camping section...



Cut the strap ~1-2 feet in length and tie the paracord through the resulting loop in the strap created by the tri-glide...


Wrap the strap around your bow limb, attach mating ends of plastic buckle, cinch tight, and lift. Cheap, light, quiet, easy. Holds tight and stays put - Doesn't slide around and clank like a carabiner.

Once at height, grab your bow with one hand, pop the buckles apart with the other. Wrap your paracord back up using the thumb/pinky figure 8 method shown in the previously attached video. Wrap your lashing strap around the bundle, mate buckles, and pull tight. Keeps your paracord bundle from coming apart, dual use.

The plastic buckle is surprisingly strong - I have used it to lower hang-on stands out of a tree with no issues.

Better hurry and go get a couple before everyone here buys them all up...

 

[Red Beard]

Yeah, back when I was doing the hand cord thing, I switched to a braided black (speckled white) accessory cord they sell cheap at Censored's Sporting Goods in camping section (if I recall I can't mention Richard's here, or maybe that's hunting beast).

It is around around 1.5 or 2 times thickness of paracord and is grippier because it is a coarser braid. Works 100X better than paracord and doesn't tangle as easy. I also had paracord start sliding in my hands when wet with a heavy pack and I almost couldn't get it stopped without 3rd degree burn, I think I stomped it with my boot.

@raisins Any additional info you could provide for this speckled cord? Like maybe and amazon link

 

[odino]

That definitely works (that was my system before getting the hoist) but I bought the hoist because having 25-30ft of cordage in your pack needs to be wound neatly to prevent tangling, is a bit tedious to unravel and re wind every time you use it, and knots are very hard when you are wearing gloves and it's 32ºF. overall it works but I didn't appreciate the cons.

Alternatively with the hoist I'll simply attach it to my bow with my homemade SCS system, climb the tree, pull my bow up, and when I'm done with it it self winds. so there is no maintenance for the gear hoist. At all.

Usually I never use gloves as long as I move ...
how should I stop, or am in position and ready to hunt, I evaluate if it is so cold that I can't stand it or not ...
If I consider it to be too cold I take out the 1.5mm(~ 1/6 ') neoprene gloves (spearfishing gloves, comfortable warm and clutter almost nothing).
I used them even in cold conditions for us extreme I would say ... -5 ° C (23 ° F) and personally I am not so bad and I still manage to make even small ties (bowline of about an inch of eyelet).

In my bow (PSE Vendetta XS) I fixed between the limbs two eyelets of dyneema ...
and I use them to tie a kind of shoulder strap with the sheet bend that is quick to make and quick to untie.

I didn't say not to use the automatic hoist ... but not to use the final carabiner.
I'm also looking for a cheap and durable one.
Best Regards

Dino

 

[Red Beard]

In my bow (PSE Vendetta XS) I fixed between the limbs two eyelets of dyneema ...
and I use them to tie a kind of shoulder strap with the sheet bend that is quick to make and quick to untie.

Care to post a picture of that shoulder strap?

 

[odino]

When can I recover it ... I forgot it from my father ...
anyway it's like this: https://www.tombihn.com/products/shoulder-straps?variant=16664457159

I removed the hooks and tied two pieces of 2mm diameter dyneema wire about 6 "long.
Then I tie it through sheet bend and put it on the shoulder as it is better at that moment.

A system is just not to keep the bow in hand all the way up to the stakeout.

Best Regards

Dino

 

[raisins]

@raisins Any additional info you could provide for this speckled cord? Like maybe and amazon link

haha...go to Richard's Sporting Goods and search for

Field & Stream 1100 Paracord 50-Feet

It's paracord's mean older brother. It's a very handy all around strong cord and is around twice as thick as 550 paracord and grippy. It's never hurt my hands even letting 20 pounds down from a tree. I plan to try the figure 8 thing with it this season. It also doesn't have that annoying core that regular paracord does that always wants to poke out and get pulled from the cover.

 

[cedar paul]

I use the end of the climbing line to haul up pack and a length of paracord with a small 4k carabiner to pull up bow. Now that I think of it I could wear the pack up and get rid of one more process.