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New Aider Idea

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Knaider sounds good.....love the ingenuity of the knaider Pete! Job well done!....ordering j hooks and heavy duty strapping now...


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I've been using the WE Aider and it leaves a lot to be desired. Torn between this and trying to make a "taider." I actually did a few climbs where I was propping my knee up on the step and pulling myself up. Fast and cuts out a piece of gear, but not remotely comfortable. This looks much easier than threading your foot in an Aider.

Pardon my ignorance, but did you stitch it yourself, or did strapworks do it for you?
 

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I've been using the WE Aider and it leaves a lot to be desired. Torn between this and trying to make a "taider." I actually did a few climbs where I was propping my knee up on the step and pulling myself up. Fast and cuts out a piece of gear, but not remotely comfortable. This looks much easier than threading your foot in an Aider.

Pardon my ignorance, but did you stitch it yourself, or did strapworks do it for you?

If Strapworks would have done such a crappy jog stitching I would have been pretty pissed :) I used one of those speedy stitchers. I love that thing.
 

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only thing guys need to search out now is a larger hook...something that doesn't require as much attention in the dark as that little guy. Not saying it isn't good to go as is, but point of every idea here is to try and improve it

Should be easy to fabricate something though with all of the engineers/ hobby machinists here.

Seriously we are the nerds of the hunting world
 
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Peterk1234

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I spent time yesterday climbing up and down with the setup. This time though, I used a linemans belt. Very stable, especially once lineman is added into the mix. I am finding that I have to lengthen the lineman because I need enough room between me and the tree/step to bring my leg straight up. It is so stable though that it solved my problem of getting onto the last step. In the past, I have been setting an extra step as a handhold (did not like the aider on a tether idea). Don't require it anymore.

If someone is going to make one of these, do me a favor. Try to use a bungee or one of those straps that can stretch for going around the top of the leg. It may work better than the static strap I am using. Keeping that snug is key so the hook does not move around on you.

Using a different sized hook is an interesting thought. The hook I am using is working well now that I am more comfortable with it. Lift the leg high enough then drag it down along the step. It always hooks. Larger would be easier for sure. Just have to make sure that it can easily unhook though. Pete​
 
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I wonder if two would work. One on each leg.
First step hook onto a rope attached to a step second step attach to the step


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I spent time yesterday climbing up and down with the setup. This time though, I used a linemans belt. Very stable, especially once lineman is added into the mix. I am finding that I have to lengthen the lineman because I need enough room between me and the tree/step to bring my leg straight up. It is so stable though that it solved my problem of getting onto the last step. In the past, I have been setting an extra step as a handhold (did not like the aider on a tether idea). Don't require it anymore.

If someone is going to make one of these, do me a favor. Try to use a bungee or one of those straps that can stretch for going around the top of the leg. It may work better than the static strap I am using. Keeping that snug is key so the hook does not move around on you.

Using a different sized hook is an interesting thought. The hook I am using is working well now that I am more comfortable with it. Lift the leg high enough then drag it down along the step. It always hooks. Larger would be easier for sure. Just have to make sure that it can easily unhook though. Pete​

How high are you getting with the aider and WE steps?
 

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Looks like 3.5 feet per Stepp based on the video

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The hook on your strap looks like a lonewolf easy hang hook only smaller . What kind of hook is it ?
 

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Well Strapworks finally shipped my stuff and I was able to make up the strap on aider idea. I think I am onto something here. This is just a rough draft of the thing, but it has promise, I think. Okay, I need opinions.....

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Here is the first time ever use of it................

What distance are you getting per step ?
 

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3.5 feet is about right. I am at about 23 feet with six steps and my platform.

We had a mini saddlepalooza today in Massachusetts. There are a few guys that have been doing it for years and a bunch of us interested in trying it. So about fifteen of us got together at a local club. I had a chance to test The Knaider at full climbing height. Once the steps are set, I can just walk up the tree. Works pretty darn good. I think my whoopie aider is dead to me.

The whoopie aider requires me to set an extra step to hook the aider to so I can get to the step just below my platform. My other option is to use the RS tether method. Found another benefit. For those that do not like to tie a step in above your head.... you no longer have to because this is hooking to the step your about to get on.
 
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3.5 feet is about right. I am at about 23 feet with six steps and my platform.

We had a mini saddlepalooza today in Massachusetts. There are a few guys that have been doing it for years and a bunch of us interested in trying it. So about fifteen of us got together at a local club. I had a chance to test The Knaider at full climbing height. Once the steps are set, I can just walk up the tree. Works pretty darn good. I think my whoopie aider is dead to me.

The whoopie aider requires me to set an extra step to hook the aider to so I can get to the step just below my platform. My other option is to use the RS tether method. Found another benefit. For those that do not like to tie a step in above your head.... you know longer have to because this is hooking to the step your about to get on.
Where in MA did y’all meet? I grew up in the Berkshire Mountains
 

PJC

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Brilliant idea. It'll be fun to watch the evolution of the knaider.


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PeterK1234 that's just plain innovative and awesome. My only concern is the possibility of knee injury, by attaching to the tree below the knee leading to unexpected torque in a wrong direction. Maybe make the attachment easily breakable?

Anyway, nice job and thanks for sharing.