Ropeman or Acenders???

[Ugly Duck]

Taking you folks advise. I just found one on amazon for 34$.. so.. my second one is on the way before I have even got my hands on the first. GOIN DEEEP down the rabbit hole.

 

[Ugly Duck]

Thanks for all the responses by the way!

 

[BRAVEHEART]

I use an ascender on my tether and my lineman's belt. Noise is a non-issue with them for me. Comes out of my pouch, hooks up and goes back in the pouch when done. For the lineman's belt a prussik can't even compare IMO. For a tether it is more comparable, but the ascender is much easier to make small adjustments, which i periodically do. The only thing comparable to a ascender on a lineman's belt for me would be the tree spider lineman's belt, but the hardware is noisier.

If you buy one to try out, you will most likely end up buying another. It is the type of thing you really just need to have hands on it to appreciate it.

I also use a Ropeman1 on my lineman's belt and my tether, (one handed user friendly).

 

[Mike Nutto]

Do these devices damage the rope?

For the rope man one you need 11mm Static rope , it is less damaging to this kind of rope, do not use the rope man2 on static 11mm it eats it up , there is an new 9 mm rope that works with the rope man two , it is predator rope ( I will look up the name) . guys are using the rope man two on the new rope as the rope man one doesn't work with 9mm rope. I do believe most tether rope is suggested to not be a static rope to help in fall arrest. Look into the ropes you use!
It is called Sampson predator rope it is 7/16 that is equivalent to 9mm , I have not used it but from reports of another hunter after using the rope man 2 he has had no problems with that ascender damaging that rope.

 

[BRAVEHEART]

Static Kernmantle rope, unlike dynamic rope, is low stretch rope with a protective outer sheath that lends itself well in the fire/rescue service, etc. being that most of the time you want very little movement in your line, similar to the three rope attachments of a saddle-type seat application. Dynamic rope on the other hand, has considerably more stretch or elongation that would create movement in all three of these components potentially causing issues with stability. Per the manufacturer, the Ropeman1 is to be used with rope diameters of between 10mm-13mm. I use the Ropeman1 with 11mm & 13 mm static kermnatle ropes and have never had any deformation in my ropes. As it has been stated already; if performed properly, saddle hunting won't let you fall in the first place. You could always back up any system and then back that system up as well, however, at some point one has to analyze the risks vs. benefits
based on certified load-testing data.

 

[redsquirrel]

For the rope man one you need 11mm Static rope , it is less damaging to this kind of rope, do not use the rope man2 on static 11mm it eats it up , there is an new 9 mm rope that works with the rope man two , it is predator rope ( I will look up the name) . guys are using the rope man two on the new rope as the rope man one doesn't work with 9mm rope. I do believe most tether rope is suggested to not be a static rope to help in fall arrest. Look into the ropes you use!
It is called Sampson predator rope it is 7/16 that is equivalent to 9mm , I have not used it but from reports of another hunter after using the rope man 2 he has had no problems with that ascender damaging that rope.

The 7/16 Samson predator is equivalent to 11.4mm rope. For our tethers most of us are using static ropes. In reality either will work but we are looking for a nice low stretch rope.

 

[Apex7]

For the rope man one you need 11mm Static rope , it is less damaging to this kind of rope, do not use the rope man2 on static 11mm it eats it up , there is an new 9 mm rope that works with the rope man two , it is predator rope ( I will look up the name) . guys are using the rope man two on the new rope as the rope man one doesn't work with 9mm rope. I do believe most tether rope is suggested to not be a static rope to help in fall arrest. Look into the ropes you use!
It is called Sampson predator rope it is 7/16 that is equivalent to 9mm , I have not used it but from reports of another hunter after using the rope man 2 he has had no problems with that ascender damaging that rope.

If I am not mistaken 7/16 is equivalent to 11mm Samson Predator rope is 11mm . The ropeman 1 will work with 9mm to 11mm.

 

[Apex7]

The 7/16 Samson predator is equivalent to 11.4mm rope. For our tethers most of us are using static ropes. In reality either will work but we are looking for a nice low stretch rope.

Hay Red didn't see your post. See you straighted it out.

 

[sdonx]

This is getting crazy...been on the site for less than a month and I have bought maybe 1000.00, most little things not much $ but a lot of them.
Just ordered two ropemans and I don't even have my Kestrel yet...hehe

 

[Mike Nutto]

If I am not mistaken 7/16 is equivalent to 11mm Samson Predator rope is 11mm . The ropeman 1 will work with 9mm to 11mm.

I'm sorry guys I was mistaken the line that works with the rope man 2 is petzel vector rope it is 8 mm , again this is why we check the ropes we are using. It can be confusing

 

[Mike Nutto]

This is getting crazy...been on the site for less than a month and I have bought maybe 1000.00 in ****, most little things not much $ but a lot of them.
Just ordered two ropemans and I don't even have my Kestrel yet...hehe

They work on your linemen's belt so your ahead of the game

 

[g2outdoors]

Ropeman 1 all the way.

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[Ugly Duck]

That's a really good video! Thanks for posting


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[BRAVEHEART]

Ropeman 1 all the way.

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G2,
Awesome video as usual. Looking forward to more..

 

[BassBoysLLP]

The only caveat to this is as long as you are using the ropeman1 with rope it is spec'ed for. There was concerns with the ropeman1 cutting through a rope smaller than it is spec'ed for in the event of a fall.

IMO in our uses there is no concern with a ropeman1 cutting through the rope, even if you happened to use it with slightly out of spec rope.

I've taken numerous intentional realistic falls with the ropeman1 on numerous ~11 mm static lines. Worst damage hadn't been damage to the sheath but milking the rope (aka lumpy rope).

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[Plattmasterson]

Do these devices damage the rope?

Not if you use static line.


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[Dakotablues]

Got a lineman’s rope put together. Used a Ropeman 2 following DIY Sportsman’s video. Seems to work well with the 8mm cord.

 

[Dakotablues]

Thinking I'd like to use 2 self-locking, arborist type biners for the lineman's belt. Since I'm using the Ropeman2, I'd like a biner that is on the thinner side, like the wire gate I have pictured above. I'd just feel better I think with 2 double locking biners - should be easy enough to still take on and off the saddle and stow it if I'd like. I'd appreciate any suggestions on biners folks might be using that'd work well for me on this. The line I'm using is 8mm, and I tried the Ropeman2 with the larger biner pictured below and it definitely snags a lot more when trying to release line. the thinner biner seemed to work much better.

 

[BRAVEHEART]

This is getting crazy...been on the site for less than a month and I have bought maybe 1000.00, most little things not much $ but a lot of them.
Just ordered two ropemans and I don't even have my Kestrel yet...hehe

sdonx,
Come on in, the water's fine! Lol.

 

[Mike Nutto]

I've taken numerous intentional realistic falls with the ropeman1 on numerous ~11 mm static lines. Worst damage hadn't been damage to the sheath but milking the rope (aka lumpy rope).

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The rope man2 uses the small mm rope like 9 mill, I have not used it. One guy has been using what I think he said was predator rope. He said he has had no problems with the 2 on that rope. The 2 however is said to chew up 11 mm static rope it is supposed to dig into that rope. I use a rope man one have for two years now, on 11mm static ripe. It works it's way nicer the saftey ropes you get with saftey harness . The 11mm static however is difficult to tie knots in. So some guys are going to the rope man two to be able to use the predator rope.( I will get the real name if that isn't it) I know it's 9mm though and said to be able tie better knots in.

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