Silver vs. Activated Carbon Clothing

[DwadeCham]

So the general consensus is merino wool or silver for base layers and Scentlok for outer? Got my scentlok gloves and head cover in today. Building it a few pieces at a time.

 

[drew13]

So the general consensus is merino wool or silver for base layers and Scentlok for outer? Got my scentlok gloves and head cover in today. Building it a few pieces at a time.

That's what I do and I feel good about my system.


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[g2outdoors]

That's what I do and it works. If one layer of scentlok works in the early season when it's hot and there's more smell, it makes sense that 1 layer late in the season should work.

 

[Maustypsu]

There is a large zippered pocket on the inside for storing the coveralls in.

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I will have to check mine out. I never realized that.

 

[Maustypsu]

That's what I do and it works. If one layer of scentlok works in the early season when it's hot and there's more smell, it makes sense that 1 layer late in the season should work.

In the late season I am more likely to need a warm meal like Ham and Bean soup or Chili. So I usually have to add a layer of scent lok to offset the beans.

 

[boone0]

I wear merino wool every day running around a busy er and don't smell worse than my patients. That's all the evidence I need for it!

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[IkemanTX]

In the late season I am more likely to need a warm meal like Ham and Bean soup or Chili. So I usually have to add a layer of scent lok to offset the beans.

They should make a double carbon layer around the exit for that....


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[Maustypsu]

They should make a double carbon layer around the exit for that....


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I always laugh. Every time I'm on a group hunting trip, the first meal is always chili or the first lunch is hot dogs and sauerkraut with baked beans.

 

[ricky racer]

In the late season I am more likely to need a warm meal like Ham and Bean soup or Chili. So I usually have to add a layer of scent lok to offset the beans.

It was that chili that made me realize that scent lok was, in my view a waste of money. When you fart and it about runs you out of the tree, you know it does nothing to reduce scent. However it is effective at removing cash from your wallet.

 

[boone0]

We have discussed evidence for activated carbon at the molecular level. Have there been any studies in the field that prove or suggest that activated carbon is effective in the field??

 

[ricky racer]

We have discussed evidence for activated carbon at the molecular level. Have there been any studies in the field that prove or suggest that activated carbon is effective in the field??

The chili test was enough to convince me. When dope smugglers wrap dope in airtight containers and submerge it in a tanker of fuel oil and its sniffed out by a dog, rest assured, a couple thousands of inch of carbon isn't going to fool a deers nose.

 

[d_rek]

We have discussed evidence for activated carbon at the molecular level. Have there been any studies in the field that prove or suggest that activated carbon is effective in the field??

Plenty of anecdotal evidence but nothing scientific, if that's what you're looking for.

The field and stream dog tests are, unfortunately, hardly scientific. The chili test is also, unfortunately, purely anecdotal and hardly scientific.

The only test that would be worthwhile is the one you perform to test scentloks effectiveness. Of course this assumes proper care and storage of garment (think in terms of laboratory contamination procedures) but most hunters are unwilling to even go a fraction of those lengths for their scent routine.

Here's what I've been saying though: even if scentloks 2015-2016 line of garments didn't contain any acivated carbon they would still be really high quality hunting clothes. IMO huge leap up from previous years garments in terms of design and material quality. At worst you end up with really high quality hunting clothes that don't actually reduce scent in a meaningful way, and at best you experience some of the dramatic results others have.


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[Prill87]

Is scent blocker still around?


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Yes. I use it because it's cheaper to buy (eBay late season) and I like their Alpha Fleece line as my outer layer.

Layers:
Up top: mid-weight merino wool for base layers and a heavy wool sweater for a warming layer on top (I use a surplus Marine Corps green uniform sweater because it's heavier wool than any commercial warming layer I've found and I bought it for about $30).
Bottoms: I have medium and heavy weight merino leggings. I've used the heavy weight on two sits in the 30s with no problem.

That's not to say I don't use scentlok. I had an early season suit that I used and loved for a season but I sold it to refresh my gear (if you buy gear on clearance from Cabelas, eBay or similar you can sell it at only a 10-20% loss on Archery Talk which is an economical way to upgrade your gear).

I love the legacy locker on Scentlok and have bought my face masks and gloves from it.

ScentLok used to have an open predator pattern but I think it ended up discontinued in the legacy locker, but I'm not sure.

I personally dislike mossy oak and real tree but don't have another option in a good activated carbon garment. I just climb up to 25'.

The only option you have is to get the ASAT 3D suit and throw it over your Camo if you want to get the best of both worlds. I bought one and really like it for turkey but haven't used it for deer yet.

I also really like the predator ambush series, but it uses silver and I'm not ready to give up carbon.



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[g2outdoors]

Listen - the ScentLok is doing something. Whether or not it's enough to help you fool deer...that's up for debate and is a highly personal thing.

HOWEVER - Let me tell you this - I can sweat through my ScentLok suit and undergarments (shorts and a t-shirt for driving), throw them in a container, and they won't smell after several days. Now I'm not talking about a little perspiration. I'm talking straight up ran-a-marathon sweaty. And I'm also not talking about a take-a-quick-wiff kind of smell. I'm talking bury your face in the arm pits and crotch of the unwashed suit that's been sitting in a container for several days. If I did that with cotton/polyester/any other hunting garment, I'd probably throw up. There is no smell on the ScentLok. It's kind of a Christmas miracle in the Georgia September bow season.

I have myself experienced this several times. AGAIN - I'm not making a claim on whether or not ScentLok can fool a deer's nose. I have my opinion on that, but this is something entirely different.

The activated carbon in their clothes ABSOLUTELY WORKS in adsorbing smell. No questions asked.

 

[JWS]

Listen - the ScentLok is doing something. Whether or not it's enough to help you fool deer...that's up for debate and is a highly personal thing.

HOWEVER - Let me tell you this - I can sweat through my ScentLok suit and undergarments (shorts and a t-shirt for driving), throw them in a container, and they won't smell after several days. Now I'm not talking about a little perspiration. I'm talking straight up ran-a-marathon sweaty. And I'm also not talking about a take-a-quick-wiff kind of smell. I'm talking bury your face in the arm pits and crotch of the unwashed suit that's been sitting in a container for several days. If I did that with cotton/polyester/any other hunting garment, I'd probably throw up. There is no smell on the ScentLok. It's kind of a Christmas miracle in the Georgia September bow season.

I have myself experienced this several times. AGAIN - I'm not making a claim on whether or not ScentLok can fool a deer's nose. I have my opinion on that, but this is something entirely different.

The activated carbon in their clothes ABSOLUTELY WORKS in adsorbing smell. No questions asked.

absolutely. This is my experience as well.

 

[sb220]

go to Walmart and buy some activated carbon in the aquarium/pet section. (used for absorbing odor in fish tanks btw)

Buy a cheap coffee grinder while youre there.

Grind some up pour it into a 5 gallon bucket of water and mix it up.

wring your just washed clothes in it, then throw them back in the washer on the spin setting.

Hang em up to dry.

All your stuff is carbon activated. (youre socks will turn black/grey)

That said I have 2 pair of scent lok coveralls, because they are so convenient to throw on over shorts or whatever I'm wearing....Love my scent lok coveralls.
When I'm on a odor control kick though, I have more faith in the above procedure than the dryer because why try to "recharge"(disputed whether you can do this at household dryer temps) when I can add/replace. I even carbon up my underwear.....not this year, but I have

 

[redsquirrel]

There was a good discussion in an earlier thread on why you still smell farts. Our resident expert @BassBoysLLP, explained how those molecules are not well adsorbed by activated carbon but that those specific molecules are very common in nature.

 

[Prill87]

There was a good discussion in an earlier thread on why you still smell farts. Our resident expert @BassBoysLLP, explained how those molecules are not well adsorbed by activated carbon but that those specific molecules are very common in nature.

So basically we're worried about masking sweat and BO and not necessarily butt stink. Right?


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[Maustypsu]

So basically we're worried about masking sweat and BO and not necessarily butt stink. Right?


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Yes... squirrels poop, deer are ruminants which means they likely fart all day long, etc. I believe that the scent that offends deer is the protein in the skin that only comes from predators. This is the one thing that makes us like a bear or coyote or wolf - we don't have fur, we shower, we walk on two legs... but if a deer smells us it knows it should run. Because it smells the proteins from the meat we eat. That is what you are trying to mask.

 

[Prill87]

Yes. I use it because it's cheaper to buy (eBay late season) and I like their Alpha Fleece line as my outer layer.

Layers:
Up top: mid-weight merino wool for base layers and a heavy wool sweater for a warming layer on top (I use a surplus Marine Corps green uniform sweater because it's heavier wool than any commercial warming layer I've found and I bought it for about $30).
Bottoms: I have medium and heavy weight merino leggings. I've used the heavy weight on two sits in the 30s with no problem.

That's not to say I don't use scentlok. I had an early season suit that I used and loved for a season but I sold it to refresh my gear (if you buy gear on clearance from Cabelas, eBay or similar you can sell it at only a 10-20% loss on Archery Talk which is an economical way to upgrade your gear).

I love the legacy locker on Scentlok and have bought my face masks and gloves from it.

ScentLok used to have an open predator pattern but I think it ended up discontinued in the legacy locker, but I'm not sure.

I personally dislike mossy oak and real tree but don't have another option in a good activated carbon garment. I just climb up to 25'.

The only option you have is to get the ASAT 3D suit and throw it over your Camo if you want to get the best of both worlds. I bought one and really like it for turkey but haven't used it for deer yet.

I also really like the predator ambush series, but it uses silver and I'm not ready to give up carbon.



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I broke down and bought a ScentLok Vortex system in vertigo grey. They're on closeout on ScentLok.com



https://www.scentlok.com/shop/weekly-specials/




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