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Spartan Forge Platform Now Offers LIDAR
- Thread starter BackSpasm
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This may be helpful where you live, but looking at my properties, it is still not detailed enough to help. Topo still shows more detail here.
Also, for topo, I need 2ft contours by one of these companies without having to manipulate GIS downloads. 10 ft is not detailed enough!
Also, for topo, I need 2ft contours by one of these companies without having to manipulate GIS downloads. 10 ft is not detailed enough!
Look at any spot here in Arkansas for an idea of what it will look like when your area gets loaded. It is super detailed. I have looked at known topo features in areas I hunt that are less than 2 feet and show like 40 foot ridge.
Here is a screenshot from a place a have hunted before. That dimple in the middle is a very small ~5 foot waterfall in that valley that is plain as day on LIDAR and invisible on any other layer. You can also see a bench there running along the left hillside, that is from an old field but the entire hillside is forested for over 50 years. That is about a 3 foot elevation change you are seeing there. Not to mention to the bottom right you can see those cliffs that are invisible on topo. Lots of info here that is hard to get elsewhere. I was using a GIS mapping software before and using county data to get this same result and now it is at my fingertips on my phone. Pretty legit
I have used LIDAR and detailed contours for many moons. On this map, there is nothing of value on Spartan Forge vs other apps unless you use GIS data with 2 ft contours, which shows things not showing on Spartan Forge’s LiDAR map.
Looks like your area isnt complete yet... or it may still even be loading when I am on a slow connection the lidar takes a long time to populate. Very interesting observation that the coverage may not be 100% yetI have used LIDAR and detailed contours for many moons. On this map, there is nothing of value on Spartan Forge vs other apps unless you use GIS data with 2 ft contours, which shows things not showing on Spartan Forge’s LiDAR map.
Havent used the one you mentioned but the SF map is more like a super defined Caltopo.
LiDAR and Slope angle shading are two different things that sometimes tell you the same information. Slope angle shading only really works in hilly/mountainous terrain. It shows you pinches and benches you might otherwise miss looking at a topo map. Because it's colored, it's good at drawing your eye to these areas. Depending on the detail, LiDAR shows you those things but in much flatter terrain. I.E. I can pick out a beaver dam crossing a creek. You have to get more accustomed to seeing the map though .Detail of the LiDAR is critical though otherwise it's not much more useful than a standard topo.
Will also point out that spartan forge has slope angle shading you can overlay on top of the LiDAR
Alright, I kicked a 13 year relationship with HuntStand to the curb in favor of Spartan Forge, strictly for the lidar. Several questions after a couple of hunts.
1. Can you filter displayed pins? On huntstand you can opt to just show, say, deer sightings. Or just rubs and scrapes. Or strictly wood duck sightings. Not seeing that on Spartan Forge.
2. Can anybody explain or link to a detailed explanation of where Spartan Forge is pulling rut date information, and what data they are basing their Movement and Pattern metric on?
3. I made one offline map without issues. Tried repeatedly on two different days to make another one. Keep getting "Cannot Create Offline Map" error. Any troubleshooting tips?
1. Can you filter displayed pins? On huntstand you can opt to just show, say, deer sightings. Or just rubs and scrapes. Or strictly wood duck sightings. Not seeing that on Spartan Forge.
2. Can anybody explain or link to a detailed explanation of where Spartan Forge is pulling rut date information, and what data they are basing their Movement and Pattern metric on?
3. I made one offline map without issues. Tried repeatedly on two different days to make another one. Keep getting "Cannot Create Offline Map" error. Any troubleshooting tips?
Were you able to transfer all your pin locations, trails from HuntStand to SF?
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1. The "My Content" tab at the bottom let's you filter but not quite like you're asking. I figure you've already seen this. Given the relatively new nature of Spartan Forge it may be worth an email to ask.
2. Having listened to a few podcasts with them on it, they're going to tell you the algorithm is proprietary. They don't say where all their data comes from, presumably some is publicly available because it comes from research other data they've indicated they signed NDA's to get.
3. You're going to have some layer turned on that it can't/isn't allowed to download but you get no feedback on which layer it is. It's annoying. I had the same problem.
Thanks. Not being able to filter rut sign from deer sightings is gonna get really old, really fast. As well as not being to isolate sign within a time frame.
There’s a number of things I like about Hunt Stand that SF doesn’t have so I keep and use both. They both have their benefits and drawbacks I feel like.
More questions.
For Blue Force, does it let you share breadcrumb trails? So far me and my bud can share pins but not trails.
For Blue Force, does it let you share breadcrumb trails? So far me and my bud can share pins but not trails.
Does anyone put any stock in SF's machine predictions of deer movement?
I have and really like the app. I have not yet looked at that part of it though. Guess I could at least look at it to compare it to my expectations. LOL
So far I haven't seen a prediction that was mind blowing to me, seems to confirm what looking at the ten day forecast has already told me. I have seen some significant variations from my house to the farm I hunt 13 miles as the crow flies away, that could be explained by the difference between a sub-rural and truly rural area, but I'm not sure about that