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The red squirrel climbing aider

tider said:
I finally got through all 400 post. We need a section for “videos only “for everyone’s ideas and methods.
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I agree, I think when someone invents a method they should put together a "How-To" or "Guide" and we could put them all in one place, it's hard to dig through all of the threads to get something figured out, especially if you didn't follow it along as it was happening.
 
Thanks for putting the video up. Looks like a great idea.


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Thank you that is a great instructional.

@redsquirrel what loops are you using on the step strap?
 
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donnieballgame said:
I agree, I think when someone invents a method they should put together a "How-To" or "Guide" and we could put them all in one place, it's hard to dig through all of the threads to get something figured out, especially if you didn't follow it along as it was happening.
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Definitely! I just spent parts of two days absorbing this thread to learn this system. Tons of great info, and interesting to see processes evolve, but a compilation of climbing methods that have become standard practices would really assist us guys that are new to saddle hunting.
 
@redsquirrel hello fellow NJ Hunter! Anyway, now that we’ve established I also live in a communist state... I see in the video you had the silent approach steps or something similar. Also heard you packed those for more ease on a plane instead of WE. Furthermore, in the beginning of this really really long thread I recall hearing Crawford rope steps. I was wondering as you’ve progressed through it if the WE is still preferred and how you would compare Cranford rope to silent approach. Kinda wondering about least weight vs safety. I’m getting tired of carrying 4 XOP sticks in. They’re not bad putting up or climbing but I want to cut weight & bulk. I was leaning toward trying something with the cranfords when I came across this feed.
 
mryan41 said:
@redsquirrel hello fellow NJ Hunter! Anyway, now that we’ve established I also live in a communist state... I see in the video you had the silent approach steps or something similar. Also heard you packed those for more ease on a plane instead of WE. Furthermore, in the beginning of this really really long thread I recall hearing Crawford rope steps. I was wondering as you’ve progressed through it if the WE is still preferred and how you would compare Cranford rope to silent approach. Kinda wondering about least weight vs safety. I’m getting tired of carrying 4 XOP sticks in. They’re not bad putting up or climbing but I want to cut weight & bulk. I was leaning toward trying something with the cranfords when I came across this feed.
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Welcome to the site!
I had been playing with the silent approach and yes I only used them in the video because they were lighter for packing down to saddlepalooza. I really don't like them and have since sold them. I haven't specifically done this with cranford rope steps but you could make it work. I've been meaning to try hanging a prussic cord off a rope step and using it like I did in the video. Too many projects, not enough time! This entire season I have been carrying 8 wild edge stepps with only the knaider. It has been a great balance between light weight and safety for me. It's nice and easy to climb and packing in a bag of 8 feels like almost nothing in my MR popup. I tryed the swaider but I wasn't comfortable with it going into the season. The only reason I haven't been using the RS aider this season is because I'm comfortable hooking onto the stepp now but I can't put the second stepp high enough to clip into that it makes it worth it. I've been better off just putting the second stepp at head height and using the knaider.
 
[QUOTE="This entire season I have been carrying 8 wild edge stepps with only the knaider. It has been a great balance between light weight and safety for me. It's nice and easy to climb and packing in a bag of 8 feels like almost nothing in my MR popup. [/QUOTE]
Thanks! Glad to be here! Enjoying this saddlehinting journey. The only thing keeping me from WE is I think the weight would be so much less with Cranford steps. I understand what you mean about SA steps. I have them for my ring of steps and can’t fathom using them as a climbing method. Just wouldn’t be comfortable with that. I know everyone seems to like to WE but if I could get comfortable with Canford ropes I think I’d prefer that. I understand the concern of balance with only one foot on Cranfords vs being able to get both feet on WE. Anyway thanks for replying and for all the ideas. Looking forward to expanding methods as I continue to look around the site.
 
redsquirrel said:
Welcome to the site!
I had been playing with the silent approach and yes I only used them in the video because they were lighter for packing down to saddlepalooza. I really don't like them and have since sold them. I haven't specifically done this with cranford rope steps but you could make it work. I've been meaning to try hanging a prussic cord off a rope step and using it like I did in the video. Too many projects, not enough time! This entire season I have been carrying 8 wild edge stepps with only the knaider. It has been a great balance between light weight and safety for me. It's nice and easy to climb and packing in a bag of 8 feels like almost nothing in my MR popup. I tryed the swaider but I wasn't comfortable with it going into the season. The only reason I haven't been using the RS aider this season is because I'm comfortable hooking onto the stepp now but I can't put the second stepp high enough to clip into that it makes it worth it. I've been better off just putting the second stepp at head height and using the knaider.
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I’m with you on starting off with knaider to build comfort but I just added the swaider and I could argue some benefits aside from reduced number of Stepps.

I feel like attaching the step at face height is easier. The swaider lets you test the stability of the Stepp with less commitment, I feel.

One thing that made adding the swaider easier was figuring out the length. I took the knaider length from foot loop to hook and made the swaider exactly twice that. Worked perfectly.

Are you using golden bucks as ROS? Or WE? Loving WE ROS but curious what the “Ameristep ROS” hype is about


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pesqimon said:
I’m with you on starting off with knaider to build comfort but I just added the swaider and I could argue some benefits aside from reduced number of Stepps.

I feel like attaching the step at face height is easier. The swaider lets you test the stability of the Stepp with less commitment, I feel.

One thing that made adding the swaider easier was figuring out the length. I took the knaider length from foot loop to hook and made the swaider exactly twice that. Worked perfectly.

Are you using golden bucks as ROS? Or WE? Loving WE ROS but curious what the “Ameristep ROS” hype is about


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I attach all but the first stepp on the tree at head height as well. I agree it is a lot easier to put it on at head height. I use my golden bucks for my ROS when I'm mobile. Either screw in steps or bolts when I'm in a preset.
 
I really need to invest some time in the knaider/swaider again. The weight and packability of the steps is unbeatable. But I do feel steps are easier as a whole.
 
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