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XOP Climber seat as climber and platform?

alukban said:
My LW seat/climber/platform is 4.4 lbs with my rope stirups and bungee.

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What are we looking at in this pic? I see a bungee applying tension on the tree belt, but is there another rope going around the tree tying the platform to the tree?
 
Yes, there is some accessory cord that ties it around the tree.

It is kinda hard to see because the cord is green. There is a better pic on post #11 of the first page of this thread.
 
kenn1320 said:
Rather than modding a stick, you might consider a Jim stepp.
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I was thinking of using an aider on the stick also. Just gives ya more range to climb below/above your platform. You could even use it for connecting any stabilizer straps that ya come up with.
Also the one hand release retrieval of a lw stick with cam buckle strap or even a muddy stick with the rope cam would make things easier.

Ill try it with a full size stick first, but simply want to cut it down in order to stick talon it to the underside of the platform.
 
third climb I realized that I could pull the platform up to me close enough with my feet legs while I adjusted belt tension, so scrapping the sidekick stick idea.
Now I'm thinking of some kind of adjustable sling connected to my tether that Id have hanging behind me. Then slide it under the back side of my knees to mechanically keep them tucked to my chest while working on the climber belt.

And so far its pretty stable at hunting height. Ive just been looping a bungee around the belt in front of the tree. You cant put force directly into the sides and you cant put your feet and weight right where the platform and tree meet.
Going to play with creating a hinge to flip up a bar with a batwing at the top, versa button and strap
 
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This method of climbing and using as a platform works very well. Tested and approved!
 
deerdhunter said:
What saddle are you using with the LW HC as a foot climber? Are you able to gain much height each lift?
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Depends on the tree you choose I think. These LW/XOP belts seem to hang up on larger diameter with loose bark ( bigger white oaks) or maybe I just have to practice more.
I fly up reds and gum trees where the only thing slow is having to adjust belt length or a limb.

TL treesaddle, but more importantly a ropeman on your tether is probably crucial.
 
I had zip tied my belt arms down per a suggestion on one of the threads about this climber, but I think it was a mistake. Went out today to climb the biggest white oak I could fit the climber around after cutting off the zip ties. Shot right up it without hanging up at all. Also allowing the arms to move made adjusting the belt much easier.
A multi-step aider girth hitched to a long runner really compliments this thing. Gets you past those limbs easier, but also use it to get you past those fat bases and up into those multi-trunk trees
 
sb220 said:
I had zip tied my belt arms down per a suggestion on one of the threads about this climber, but I think it was a mistake. Went out today to climb the biggest white oak I could fit the climber around after cutting off the zip ties. Shot right up it without hanging up at all. Also allowing the arms to move made adjusting the belt much easier.
A multi-step aider girth hitched to a long runner really compliments this thing. Gets you past those limbs easier, but also use it to get you past those fat bases and up into those multi-trunk trees
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What does this look like
multi-step aider girth hitched to a long runner really compliments this thing.
 
ive got a 3 step cmi aider (wish I had bought a 4 or even 5 step though...cause why not)
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girth hitched to a runner

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then girth hitch the runner around the tree

just like youd see in any youtube vid of guys climbing with aiders
 
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Thanks for the response about which saddle you are using in conjunction with the LW HC. I tried it years ago with a different saddle and seems like there was too much stretch in the connection or webbing to climb efficiently.
 
deerdhunter said:
Thanks for the response about which saddle you are using in conjunction with the LW HC. I tried it years ago with a different saddle and seems like there was too much stretch in the connection or webbing to climb efficiently.
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I adjust my tether (11mm rope with ropeman/caribiner) as high as I can reach and I can usually sit/raise climber/stand and pull up tether slack, 3 times before I have to pull down the ropeman and push my tether up the tree.
Also for anyone using a TL I have my bridge "out" like I was at hunting height and wear my lineman belt connected to the loops and over the back of my neck acting like suspenders (for those of us that cut those useless things off :kissing:) Makes it more comfortable while keeping things from falling to your ankles

I don't see how any saddle wouldn't work here though. Possibly the guidos web would have issue if the fork wasn't getting enough clearance to go from a down position to its perpendicular tree position, plus the guidos web being an exo-skeleton and somewhat restrictive probably. That's the only one I can think of though. I really think these LW/XOP stands in general with their floppy belts just take a little getting used to. Have to get your feet tight to em...toes and heels have to be stuck to it
 
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I think you hit on it. I tried this a long time ago before I switched to a ropeman and found it inefficient. It's worth giving it another shot.
 
redsquirrel said:
I think you hit on it. I tried this a long time ago before I switched to a ropeman and found it inefficient. It's worth giving it another shot.
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Working the tether is the fastest part of the process with a ropeman...just pull up the loose end of your tether and continue

but yeah trying to loosen/engage a prussic over and over would be enough for me to toss this aside
 
I'm going to give this a try. With my spurs I find myself gravitating towards straight trees w/o limbs. So in those scenarios, this climber would save serious weight. For those trees I could save the weight of my platform (4 lbs) and my spurs (8 lbs). That's pretty significant. But the real question is...when hunting mobile, will I always have a good tree. Hmmm....
 
g2outdoors said:
I'm going to give this a try. With my spurs I find myself gravitating towards straight trees w/o limbs. So in those scenarios, this climber would save serious weight. For those trees I could save the weight of my platform (4 lbs) and my spurs (8 lbs). That's pretty significant. But the real question is...when hunting mobile, will I always have a good tree. Hmmm....
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Couple questions. What spurs are you using? I had buckinghams but I switched to the aluminum climb rights that flingin got and I'm so much happier with them. Also, I have started attaching my tether like a second lineman's belt for climbing. It makes it so much quicker, safer and easier going up to have 2, then I just pop it off to use as my tether.
 
I'm using the same aluminum climb rights with the leather t-pads. They work great. I have no issues with them. It's just that I could save a lot of weight, at least 5 or 6 pounds, using the climbing seat/platform.
 
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