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XOP Climber seat as climber and platform?

I'm using the same aluminum climb rights with the leather t-pads. They work great. I have no issues with them. It's just that I could save a lot of weight, at least 5 or 6 pounds, using the climbing seat/platform.
That's what I was thinking. I don't know if I'm going to buy one but it would be nice sometimes but slower than Spurs. I'm either buying one of these platforms or get different pads for mine like flingin.
 
Wish I had confidence it was stable. Id use it with sticks. Get to a tree with no limbs, ditch the sticks and climb. Find a tree with limbs, climb with the sticks and hang it.
 
Wish I had confidence it was stable. Id use it with sticks. Get to a tree with no limbs, ditch the sticks and climb. Find a tree with limbs, climb with the sticks and hang it.
I use mine with my LW sticks and I use it as a climber. I feel it is very stable considering I am tethered to the tree. I have a small rope tied to the platform that I clip onto the caribener of my tether just in case
 
Wish I had confidence it was stable. Id use it with sticks. Get to a tree with no limbs, ditch the sticks and climb. Find a tree with limbs, climb with the sticks and hang it.

If you are going to carry the sticks, its just easier and faster to climb with the sticks limbs or no limbs.

My sticks and platform bundle weighs around 16lbs while this climber and rappel stuff is around 6lbs. I'm planning on hanging a couple top-sticks and platform sets and carrying out the bottom two next year, but for my long-distance/scout setup though, this climber is proving tough to beat as far as weight vs climbing efficiency.

Going back to a previous post someone asked what saddles we were using, has anyone tried this without leg loops yet? Having leg loops and my lineman belt as makeshift suspenders I don't have to think or fiddle with things when sitting down. Never having used a sit-drag it looks similar to a swingset swing, so youd have to keep it tucked under your cheeks? A RC harness paired with the SD may prove necessary?
 
For more stability Ive got this idea of attaching a couple of these strut channel angles
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to create a hinge like the lock-on seats have. Allowing for an xop super hybrid climbing platform.
Due to the bottom teeth actually being part of the platform maybe it uses just a regular strap and versa button instead of the amsteel tied to the platform that you guys use.

question is will it increase stability enough to justify the added weight
 
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Has anyone thought of just using your tether as a safety strap then just use a second web loop as a kind of "pull-up bar" to lift your legs like you would with a hand climber?
 
Has anyone thought of just using your tether as a safety strap then just use a second web loop as a kind of "pull-up bar" to lift your legs like you would with a hand climber?

If I'm picturing what your saying correctly it would isolate your abdominals and be tough.
Ive got 6 climbs in and liking it more and more, but easiest way from what I can tell is to just sit, tuck your elbows tight to your sides, hold yourself away from tree and raise the platform. Its still a tad bit of work, but you can stop to just chill in your saddle for a minute if you need to at any time.
Ill try to pay attention to what specific muscle group is taking the brunt of the work next time.
 
About 20 years ago I used a small homemade foot climber and an Anderson tree sling. I used a length of rope doubled with 6-7 knots tied in it to girth hitch the tree and for hand holds to aid in climbing. As I remember, it wasn't that difficult but with my current age and health issues I don't think I want to try it. But I have been thinking that maybe with an aluminum tube attached to the tether to rest the elbows on or a piece of webbing to place the elbows in while grasping the tether it might be easier. I plan to try it after the new year - weather permitting.
 
For more stability Ive got this idea of attaching a couple of these strut channel angles
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to create a hinge like the lock-on seats have. Allowing for an xop super hybrid climbing platform.
Due to the bottom teeth actually being part of the platform maybe it uses just a regular strap and versa button instead of the amsteel tied to the platform that you guys use.

question is will it increase stability enough to justify the added weight
Hey sb220,
I'm fairly new to the saddle (have the NT Aero) and really like the XOP climber platform idea you guys are using. Just got my platform delivered and really excited to try it out (I generally use climber stands on portable hunts, so certainly used to them).

Can you explain in a little more detail what you're thinking about doing with the strut channel angles to create a hinge? I'm not toally following it, but I also may need another cup of coffee.

Thanks...love the concept...great site here and lots of smart and innovative folks!
 
Hey sb220,
I'm fairly new to the saddle (have the NT Aero) and really like the XOP climber platform idea you guys are using. Just got my platform delivered and really excited to try it out (I generally use climber stands on portable hunts, so certainly used to them).

Can you explain in a little more detail what you're thinking about doing with the strut channel angles to create a hinge? I'm not toally following it, but I also may need another cup of coffee.

Thanks...love the concept...great site here and lots of smart and innovative folks!

Yeah basically I'm thinking of bolting on some contraption that allows for a stick to be attached like the guys are doing with the seats.

Grabbed some stuff out of the garage to show what I mean......imagine a couple small aluminum plates and some bolts sandwiching the rear grating allowing you to create some kind of lock-on like hinge.

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I think the above video of the guy cam locking his lock-on stand may be achievable....using a LW cam strap and the climber belt acting as your support cables
 
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About 20 years ago I used a small homemade foot climber and an Anderson tree sling. I used a length of rope doubled with 6-7 knots tied in it to girth hitch the tree and for hand holds to aid in climbing. As I remember, it wasn't that difficult but with my current age and health issues I don't think I want to try it. But I have been thinking that maybe with an aluminum tube attached to the tether to rest the elbows on or a piece of webbing to place the elbows in while grasping the tether it might be easier. I plan to try it after the new year - weather permitting.
Sitting in your saddle has to be the easiest way that I can imagine. In my head you guys are describing this...post season 6-pack
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Yeah basically I'm thinking of bolting on some contraption that allows for a stick to be attached like the guys are doing with the seats.

Grabbed some stuff out of the garage to show what I mean......imagine a couple small aluminum plates and some bolts sandwiching the rear grating allowing you to create some kind of lock-on like hinge.

IMG_0869_zpsx1k50roh.jpg

IMG_0870_zps6dmvpp7x.jpg

IMG_0871_zpsyfpvhc1l.jpg


I think the above video of the guy cam locking his lock-on stand may be achievable....using a LW cam strap and the climber belt acting as your support cables
that's pretty slick. Can't see why that wouldn't work.
 
that's pretty slick. Can't see why that wouldn't work.

Just depends on if its worth it. If it makes it solid
The platform as is with just a bungee across the front rocks from side pressure. I haven't tested it low enough to flat out put sideways pressure on it, but I'm sure it would cause the platform to fail. Ill try that tomorrow
 
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Just depends on if its worth it. If it makes it solid
The platform as is with just a bungee across the front rocks from side pressure. I haven't tested it low enough to flat out put sideways pressure on it, but I'm sure it would cause the platform to fail. Ill try that tomorrow

Your describing what I experience with my top portion of a sit n climb, thanks for confirming my doubts of this being solid/stable. Now if the top is connected to a bottom like the lw its very solid. Hope your vertical bar works out.
 
Your describing what I experience with my top portion of a sit n climb, thanks for confirming my doubts of this being solid/stable. Now if the top is connected to a bottom like the lw its very solid. Hope your vertical bar works out.

Yeah its not bad in a saddle though. I can shoot 360.

I lean more than sit ( I think) no pad of any kind for knees. Not sure about you guys standing/turning with a loose tether. Standing isn't an issue though. Weight on the platform makes it more stable. Its when I put more weight on one side vs the other that it rocks

can it be better? yeah

How do the xop platforms stand up to sideways pressure? can you lean out sideways to pee without getting your sticks wet?
 
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Yeah basically I'm thinking of bolting on some contraption that allows for a stick to be attached like the guys are doing with the seats.

Grabbed some stuff out of the garage to show what I mean......imagine a couple small aluminum plates and some bolts sandwiching the rear grating allowing you to create some kind of lock-on like hinge.

IMG_0869_zpsx1k50roh.jpg

IMG_0870_zps6dmvpp7x.jpg

IMG_0871_zpsyfpvhc1l.jpg


I think the above video of the guy cam locking his lock-on stand may be achievable....using a LW cam strap and the climber belt acting as your support cables
Got it! Apprecaite the detailed explanation/visuals!
 
Alukban here uses the Lonewolf Seat to climb (DIY Footstraps) and also as the platform.

I think the XOP is very similar but I read it was 1/2 pound lighter.

I would rather carry a climber seat than my climbing sticks

Here's a YouTube of a guy climbing using the seat
That's about the fastest I've ever seen anyone go up and down a tree that wasn't in a lumberjack competition.
 
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