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Climbing rope for tree access

jtkratzer said:
Just guessing there would be too much stretch and sag to use a rope like a zip line.
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+1

And, I don't think you'd have enough control to swing across Indiana Jones style. It may be possible, but I think there are a lot of risks.
 
Probably so. Where I am it's just small stuff too deep to go across in knee boots. Guess Ill play it safe and stick with the hip boots


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noxninja said:
Probably so. Where I am it's just small stuff too deep to go across in knee boots. Guess Ill play it safe and stick with the hip boots


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Throw everything in a dry bag and go skinny dipping. :) You could also set a guide rope and use a inflatable Walmart raft to cross..
 
Skinny dipping...right now for sure as its in the 80's but I'll pass in March. Yes I did think about the raft for the slightly larger stuff


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Just wrapped (unwrapped?) up Christmas with my folks and got my 10 oz throw bag, 180' of zing-it throw line, and 50' of 11mm kernmantle static line. Time to order the Petzl kit and a delta link or some other screw gate link to run the lines through at the trunk and then start practicing.
 
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jtkratzer said:
Just wrapped (unwrapped?) up Christmas with my folks and got my 10 oz throw bag, 180' of zing-it throw line, and 50' of 11mm kernmantle static line. Time to order the Petzl kit and a delta link or some other screw gate link to run the lines through at the trunk and then start practicing.
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I searched and got my grigri2 for 64$ shipped. My parents got me the hand ascender. And I ordered a kong duck for my tether. I can't wait for them all to come in. Very excited to try this out.

Just a note on the throw line. If you can work the rope around the center of the tree (the part going up)instead of just a branch, it will be a lot safer.

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After you feed the single rope up and tie around the tree. You hunt than descend. How do you get the rope back down,?
 
You tie a piece of paracord or other strong small string to the loop at the end of the rope. That way, you can pull the rope in and out of the tree from the ground. The string and rope should be long enough so that you can feed the string or rope through the loop to make the cinch when pulling the rope in. It should be long enough so that you could leave the string in place after pulling the rope out after hunting so that you can just tie the rope to the string and repeat that part the next time you want to pull the rope into that tree

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essdub said:
You tie a piece of paracord or other strong small string to the loop at the end of the rope. That way, you can pull the rope in and out of the tree from the ground. The string and rope should be long enough so that you can feed the string or rope through the loop to make the cinch when pulling the rope in. It should be long enough so that you could leave the string in place after pulling the rope out after hunting so that you can just tie the rope to the string and repeat that part the next time you want to pull the rope into that tree

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This piece of paracord tied to your loop/cinch point also doubles as your line to haul your bow or any other gear up to your hunting height after climbing.
 
Came home to an unexpected package containing my black Petzl rig and fixe pulley. Now have everything to give the RAD system a try and there is a single digit windchill temp outside. Bummer.
 
Just thought I would share this for anyone not wanting to carry a throw line bag into the woods with them I thought I would share this pic. It's much faster than trying to flake your line into a bag something of that sort. Plus since the temps finally dropped here my throw line bag now sounds like a cat's crinkle bag.
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lpv77 said:
After you feed the single rope up and tie around the tree. You hunt than descend. How do you get the rope back down,?
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DIYSaddler said:
Just thought I would share this for anyone not wanting to carry a throw line bag into the woods with them I thought I would share this pic. It's much faster than trying to flake your line into a bag something of that sort. Plus since the temps finally dropped here my throw line bag now sounds like a cat's crinkle bag.


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Great idea, I bet a piece of fleece that can be folded into thirds and then rolled up would work great for this. Just pile the line like you show here then fold the two sides up and roll. It's probably much faster than trying to stuff it into a bag. Then next time you use it, just unroll the mat. It seems like it would be easier for the line to pay out when you throw from a mat rather than a bag.

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Got out for my first climb today with the RAD gear. Climbing is easy. Getting the damn throw bag where I want it in thick pines and the birch trees I have in the front yard is a pain. I suppose the best way to get better with the throw bag is to throw more throw bag, like more cowbell, but more throw bag.

What are you all doing to shorten your bridges when climbing? The blake's hitch that came on the saddle is way too long, preventing the bridge from shortening enough. I temporarily took it off to use a biner and ropeman. I'd like to find a non-metallic solution.
 
The best way to throw a throw bag is with two hands between your legs. I don't have one but when I used to climb trees professionally, that's how we did it. It takes a special knot to create two handles, but is super easy. Perhaps I can draw a picture in the morning. Once you have two handles, you swing the bag between your legs and then point with your hands at the branch you want during your throw/follow through.

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Erniepower said:
The best way to throw a throw bag is with two hands between your legs. I don't have one but when I used to climb trees professionally, that's how we did it. It takes a special knot to create two handles, but is super easy. Perhaps I can draw a picture in the morning. Once you have two handles, you swing the bag between your legs and then point with your hands at the branch you want during your throw/follow through.

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I'll try it. Was doing the one hand at my side thing. Accuracy wasn't so much of the issue, it was the unrealistically tight spaces and ridiculous number of branches I was trying to navigate through.

The three pines were balled Christmas trees that were planted 30+ years ago. Just a lot of obstacles to get through to cinch around the trunk, rather than the trunk and six branches making the cinch 12' wide.

Just a pull from Google Images, but this is the mess I'm trying to throw through:
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Ahhhhh, Yeah that would suck to throw through. Hopefully you left some paracord behind for next time

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Erniepower said:
Ahhhhh, Yeah that would suck to throw through. Hopefully you left some paracord behind for next time

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I didn't. The point was to practice. Might find a different group of trees to throw the line into. I do plan on leaving paracord in a tree to speed up the process when I want to go out and shoot from the saddle, but for now, it's just getting the line in the tree in the first place.
 
jtkratzer said:
I'll try it. Was doing the one hand at my side thing. Accuracy wasn't so much of the issue, it was the unrealistically tight spaces and ridiculous number of branches I was trying to navigate through.

The three pines were balled Christmas trees that were planted 30+ years ago. Just a lot of obstacles to get through to cinch around the trunk, rather than the trunk and six branches making the cinch 12' wide.
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I use the two handed method as well and I can get a throw into a tree about about 60' up that way.
Found this on a google search.
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Once you get on the branch you want to isolate the line just attach your weight to the other end of your throw line and pull it up to the point where you are thrown in. Then just lower it back down and it should fallow the path of the other end of the rope. If it falls on the wrong side of one branch just bump the throw weight off a limb to get it swinging and then let it drop when it's on the side of the branch you want.
 
DIYSaddler said:
jtkratzer said:
I'll try it. Was doing the one hand at my side thing. Accuracy wasn't so much of the issue, it was the unrealistically tight spaces and ridiculous number of branches I was trying to navigate through.

The three pines were balled Christmas trees that were planted 30+ years ago. Just a lot of obstacles to get through to cinch around the trunk, rather than the trunk and six branches making the cinch 12' wide.
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I use the two handed method as well and I can get a throw into a tree about about 60' up that way.
Found this on a google search.
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Once you get on the branch you want to isolate the line just attach your weight to the other end of your throw line and pull it up to the point where you are thrown in. Then just lower it back down and it should fallow the path of the other end of the rope. If it falls on the wrong side of one branch just bump the throw weight off a limb to get it swinging and then let it drop when it's on the side of the branch you want.
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Does that work for going around the trunk - the method of hauling the throw bag up from the side from where you just threw it? I'm trying to cinch on the trunk so I can hunt right from the climbing rope and don't have to set up a tree strap, too.

I think the bottom line is trees like the pines in my front yard are the opposite of good for this method of climbing. I could see using a few steps or sticks to get into the branches and then use them to climb up to where I want my cinch and simply drape the paracord around the tree to haul the climbing up. And that's only if the tree is THE tree to hunt from. If it were on a spot I wanted to hunt, it definitely would give lots of background and concealment, just not a tree where a throw line will work to cinch around the trunk nice and neat.
 
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