Hit a small 8 point today. Was a little high and in the shoulder but really wasn’t a bad shot. The angle was perfect to get a lung and heart. I have some ser razors and tooth of the arrows. I went with the tooth of the arrow head. I don’t think it’s the heads fault. I think I need to accept that I can’t hit a shoulder with a 4 blade head and a 26” draw length. I am shooting the 175gr with 75gr insert so the weight is right around 500gr and 63lbs draw weight. I can’t think of why it didn’t penetrate better aside from the fact that with my short DL I will be better off with a two blade or with bleeders. Now I’m even nervous about bleeders.
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Lack of penetration has me going to a two blade.
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Is a 2-blade really going to make enough of a difference to matter? NOT saying that it's a bad idea to switch...but shoulder is a bit of the luck of the draw, especially on small to moderate-sized deer. Hit the right place - even a Rage will smash through and get the job done. Hit just a tad different, and nothing's making it through.
There's a reasonable chance that you didn't get penetration...because you hit somewhere where you won't get penetration.
According to Ashby studies it does
Hunter260
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I’ve been super happy with the performance of my 2 blade heads. You won’t miss out on blood trails. They die just as quick
Oh I agree it makes a difference. I just also think that we often think we make better shots than we did, underestimate the solidity of the bone encountered, and underestimate what even mechanicals can punch through.
It's not that such a setup won't provide more penetration, but rather that there's no guarantee it'd give any better outcome.
Have trouble blood-trailing the next deer? blame the lack of blades and just keep churning back and forth.
I think with my setup that there isn’t enough KE to get through that bone with the 4 blade I used. I agree that even with 2 blade is possible but I think my chances are much better. I’m pretty upset with myself. I though the tooth of the arrow besides being a 4 blade that being cut on contact wouldn’t give me as much of an issue. I thought that this scenario would give me at minimum plenty of penetration but possibly not a pass through. I hate wounding anything and I looked for hours.
What bow are you shooting?
I’m assuming you were saying what arrow. Gold tip xt hunter. 350. I was between 350 and 300 with my short arrow. I’m may go with the micro diameter victory or black eagle next year. I’m one to chase the next great equipment but I’ve read so many good thingson the micros penetration. But honestly I think my broadhead was the only factor today.
what Bow are you shooting.
I’d go to a 2 blade with cut on contact tip, id sharpen them to razor sharp, Id keep my shots within 20 yards.
Or get a hickory creek mini, and extend range to 30-35.
I love the bow man. Crossbows aren’t for me.
I’m not sure that I’d put the blame on anything other than bad luck. Have you checked the tune? An arrow that ain’t flying straight has a much harder time penetrating. Please don’t take this as criticism, just trying to offer any help I can. Also what broadheads was it if you don’t mind?
There are a lot of factors here.
Broadhead integrity is probably the most important thing. No matter how many, or how few blades a head has, if it can't penetrate heavy bone without deforming, then it won't penetrate as well.
How far was the shot? Was the arrow fully recovered from paradox?
Broadhead integrity is probably the most important thing. No matter how many, or how few blades a head has, if it can't penetrate heavy bone without deforming, then it won't penetrate as well.
How far was the shot? Was the arrow fully recovered from paradox?
Don't take this the wrong way. But with your draw length and weight, that crossbow might be just what the doctor ordered. If you're cool with shooting deer under 20 yards, keep rollin'! But unfortunately you're at a bit of a disadvantage. Was just offering something that might extend your range. I love shooting a bow too. But I leave my pride at the door and tote the mini with a big grin on my face often...
Where in the OP posts does he say he feels the need to shoot farther? He's talking about penetration.
I thought about the tune as well. The seem to fly well but I did not bare shaft or walk back tune. broadhead was tooth of the arrow. I have no doubts about the integrity of the head even though I didn’t recover it. Those heads are damn near bulletproof.
shot was only about 20yds. He ran away with the arrow in him.
shot was only about 20yds. He ran away with the arrow in him.
OP didn't say the range he shot at, but I think kyler's point was a 26"/60 is gonna have a hard time busting shoulders past 20 yards regardless of arrow build.
It's like hotrodding engines. No replacement for displacement. In archery, poundage and powerstroke increases don't really have a replacement.