Trad bow and EZV sight

[Red Beard]

I tried it. Got me grouping at 15 and 20 yds quicker than when I first learned to shoot trad 20 years ago. Back then I had better vision and eventually did become proficient shooting instinctive. At least at 3D courses. I was hoping to use the EZV to shorten the process and eventually remove it once I developed the muscle memory and site vision. Plus it gets a rise out of the uptight trad guys.

Say no more friend. I'm pretty sure you're on @Allegheny Tom's hit list now!

 

[TreeMunkie]

Say no more friend. I'm pretty sure you're on @Allegheny Tom's hit list now!

That's ok, I heard he has been seen shooting one of those new electric Raven crossbows.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

That's ok, I heard he has been seen shooting one of those new electric Raven crossbows.

Ouch, that hurt.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

Say no more friend. I'm pretty sure you're on @Allegheny Tom's hit list now!

I'm just happy to see guys going trad. Personally, I think the less stuff on a bow the better, but I'm still happily welcoming guys over here on the dark side.

 

[will4554]

I don't understand that part of your post. Self bows were killing critters for several thousand years before modern bows. It ain't about the speed. Its about penetration in the right spot with a sharp broadhead.

My apologies, it was sarcasm. My arrows are Ashby approved lol

 

[JoyRyd]

I tried it. Got me grouping at 15 and 20 yds quicker than when I first learned to shoot trad 20 years ago. Back then I had better vision and eventually did become proficient shooting instinctive. At least at 3D courses. I was hoping to use the EZV to shorten the process and eventually remove it once I developed the muscle memory and site vision. Plus it gets a rise out of the uptight trad guys.

Not for me, BUT that is awesome! Do you have to shoot with the bow more vertical? Can you post a video? It appears you are shooting of the shelf with the EZV? MORE , MORE , MORE.... I've got to see this in action.
PS: Sorry Tom!.....I'm not trying to stir up trouble, but you gotta admit this is.....unique?

 

[Red Beard]

Not for me, BUT that is awesome! Do you have to shoot with the bow more vertical? Can you post a video? It appears you are shooting of the shelf with the EZV? MORE , MORE , MORE.... I've got to see this in action.
PS: Sorry Tom!.....I'm not trying to stir up trouble, but you gotta admit this is.....unique?

We've created a monster!

 

[Allegheny Tom]

.......... PS: Sorry Tom!.....I'm not trying to stir up trouble, but you gotta admit this is.....unique?

You guys do realize that I'm just kidding with my outrage, right?
I have no problem with someone putting a sight on their trad bow. I'd much rather see a hunter shooting a recurve with a sight than I would a guy take the easy route and go with all the bells and whistles.
All kidding aside though, I am concerned with the direction bowhunting has gone. There are bowhunters and there are people that hunt with a bow. The former tend to be dedicated to doing it with the simplest equipment that they can ethically hunt with. The latter is often (but not always) a hunter that is looking to expand their seasons and really doesn't care about the weapon. They will use "whatever is legal". This is the mindset that is now fueling the threat of the introduction of the airbow into bow seasons.
So when a guy chooses to step back from high tech and try trad, I'm elated to hear that. XXXOOO

 

[Red Beard]

You guys do realize that I'm just kidding with my outrage, right?
I have no problem with someone putting a sight on their trad bow.

Of course we do buddy!

 

[Red Beard]

Sorry to highjack your thread real quick @Exhumis but this is probably the place for talking about this vs starting a new thread about the same components...

The main reason I want to put an EZV on ANY bow (in this case it's my new recurve) is due to my complete inability to gauge yardage. See, my issue is not placing shots on target at a known distance when I've calibrated myself/equipment for that distance... it's being able to tell how far away that target is in the first place. This problem increases exponentially "in the heat of the moment".

Below is a perfect example of this. The first picture shows where I initially blanked and ultimately panicked because I walked to an unknown distance from a target. The last two photos are the shots I placed on that exact target after I knew it was at 20yds.

Bringing it full circle back to the EZV, the EZV provides me with immediate, and pretty dern precise, yardage estimation just prior to the shot.


Edit: Thought I'd edit this post with a picture of the EZV in action for relevance. The picture below shows that the EZV would have provided immediate feedback regarding yardage without the use of a rangefinder.

 

[AppalachianArcher]

Edit: Thought I'd edit this post with a picture of the EZV in action for relevance. The picture below shows that the EZV would have provided immediate feedback regarding yardage without the use of a rangefinder.
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Serious question here. How does this give immediate feedback for yardage? I'm guessing the hash marks have something to do with it. Sorry, I don't understand how those sights work.

 

[Red Beard]

Serious question here. How does this give immediate feedback for yardage? I'm guessing the hash marks have something to do with it. Sorry, I don't understand how those sights work.

No problem buddy! The EZV is essentially a bracketing system. The way it works is that you drop the vitals (roughly the size of a basketball) into the V. Wherever they fit in the bracket is the appropriate distance to the target. Unfortunately, it was kind of a bad picture because I really struggled to get the phone camera aligned with the insert. The top tick mark is 20yds though.

 

[AppalachianArcher]

No problem buddy! The EZV is essentially a bracketing system. The way it works is that you drop the vitals (roughly the size of a basketball) into the V. Wherever they fit in the bracket is the appropriate distance to the target. Unfortunately, it was kind of a bad picture because I was really struggling to get the phone camera aligned with the insert. The top tick mark is 20yds though.

I figured it was something along those lines, but wasn't really sure. Would larger size game like elk or moose throw it off? I know the moose target in my avatar really messed up my judgment on the distance due to it's size.

 

[Red Beard]

I figured it was something along those lines, but wasn't really sure. Would larger size game like elk or moose throw it off? I know the moose target in my avatar really messed up my judgment on the distance due to it's size.

Not quite sure. I've only ever tried it on whitetail, turkey, and coyotes.

I imagine that it would though because your brain eventually makes a correlation between the V and a basketball. Then it's just a matter of how big the target is in relation to the size of a basketball.

 

[AppalachianArcher]

Not quite sure. I've only ever tried it on whitetail, turkey, and coyotes.

I imagine that it would though because your brain eventually makes a correlation between the V and a basketball. Then it's just a matter of how big the target is in relation to the size of a basketball.

I would think so too. I usually just shoot at deer size targets and smaller. My first shot on the moose went low just between the leg and tree behind it, flying into oblivion. It was at 35yds and my mind read 25yds because it's relation in my sight window.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

Sorry to highjack your thread real quick @Exhumis but this is probably the place for talking about this vs starting a new thread about the same components...

The main reason I want to put an EZV on ANY bow (in this case it's my new recurve) is due to my complete inability to gauge yardage.

Stump shooting will do wonders for estimating yardage. You won't really be trying to calculate yardage numbers but your brain will subconsciously make the adjustments for reasonable hunting yardages.

 

[Red Beard]

Stump shooting will do wonders for estimating yardage. You won't really be trying to calculate yardage numbers but your brain will subconsciously make the adjustments for reasonable hunting yardages.

Right on. Planning a trip out to @GCTerpfan's soon to knock a mildly deflated basketball around with blunt tips. Apparently it's the best fun that can be had without ziplines.

 

[AppalachianArcher]

Stump shooting will do wonders for estimating yardage. You won't really be trying to calculate yardage numbers but your brain will subconsciously make the adjustments for reasonable hunting yardages.

I agree. I would do this on my way out of/into the woods during deer season, and while out chasing pigs around.

 

[BTaylor]

Right on. Planning a trip out to @GCTerpfan's soon to knock a mildly deflated basketball around with blunt tips. Apparently it's the best fun that can be had without ziplines.

Why not use the zip lines? As for yardage, it's easy to practice all the time. Going for diapers, pick an object between your car and the store call the yardage and walk to it. Do the same in the store. Doesnt take long until you will be pretty dang accurate to whatever distance you you call your hunting max. I typically try to stay in good practice to 30-35 and then extend to 50 when I know I am going out west.

 

[Allegheny Tom]

Why not use the zip lines? As for yardage, it's easy to practice all the time. Going for diapers, pick an object between your car and the store call the yardage and walk to it. Do the same in the store. Doesnt take long until you will be pretty dang accurate to whatever distance you you call your hunting max. I typically try to stay in good practice to 30-35 and then extend to 50 when I know I am going out west.

I do that.
I'm able to be within a yard out to about 22. But it really doesn't matter. You'll get to the point that you aren't thinking "thats X yards". You just look and shoot.