Say no more friend. I'm pretty sure you're on @Allegheny Tom's hit list now!I tried it. Got me grouping at 15 and 20 yds quicker than when I first learned to shoot trad 20 years ago. Back then I had better vision and eventually did become proficient shooting instinctive. At least at 3D courses. I was hoping to use the EZV to shorten the process and eventually remove it once I developed the muscle memory and site vision. Plus it gets a rise out of the uptight trad guys.