No way I'd use that setup I saw in that video. He explicitly says not to, himself.
For those who haven't seen a lap link:
View attachment 50492
I don't see the real benefit to having an open link in your climbing system. It may be low risk but I knew when I saw that video someone would ask about it even after he said its dumb and unsafe to use lol.
I know this was a big deal in the past when rappelling first kicked up but I would like to know why everyone is so adamant about not using a carabiner attachment for the rope attached to the tree when rappelling? I have heard the cross loading argument, does anyone have tech or safety manuals showing where this is unsafe? The examples I have seen have been far more extreme angles or multidirectional loading then the tangent of a tree radius.
From petzl, example:
Now I can tell you its a complete pain in the rear to undo a scaffold knot.
My thing is yea, he says “don’t do this” and I get that he’s experimenting with the stuff but I still think maybe it’s a bad idea to put a video of something you don’t endorse other doing on a channel that will be seen by hundreds of thousands of peopleLuckily not that many people watch The Hunting Public. This should not inspire anyone to extend those time savings and swap out their main binder with an S binder with the gate removed.
LOL he never said that at all or anything close to it.even after he said its dumb and unsafe to use lol.
Thanks for sharing. To me those loadings on an edge are no where near the same, meaning that the edge is way more extreme then the tangent on the radius of a tree. The closest example in that video that I saw was at 5:45 and it broke at 4,000 lbf.I think this video appeared in another thread here somewhere, but I know when I saw it, my skepticism about how bad it could be took a hit.
I haven't seen similar testing for a steel, high strength carabiner - I know there are 70kn steel lockers, and that'd be the closest I get to this temptation.
You right, thats what I am saying. He just said it wasn't vetted, but he felt very comfortable with it. Which makes sense, obviously he is fine with the risks over the reward.LOL he never said that at all or anything close to it.
My thing is yea, he says “don’t do this” and I get that he’s experimenting with the stuff but I still think maybe it’s a bad idea to put a video of something you don’t endorse other doing on a channel that will be seen by hundreds of thousands of people