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Replacing bridge, what is your favorite?

I've looked at that and have a Jammy. What I don't like is the MBS is almost half of 7mm accessory cord and the Edelrid 6mm cord is rated at like 20kN.

I have often wondered if the description of that cordage is incorrect.


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Wait a minute you think 18kN is half the strength of 12 kN 7mm cord? On the site you posted Beal Jammie has a breaking strength of 1800 daN which converts to 18 kN which is over 1300 lbs STRONGER than 7mm Sterling cord. Unless I am missing something
 
Wait a minute you think 18kN is half the strength of 12 kN 7mm cord? On the site you posted Beal Jammie has a breaking strength of 1800 daN which converts to 18 kN which is over 1300 lbs STRONGER than 7mm Sterling cord. Unless I am missing something

That is completely my error on the designations being used. When I looked at the link I saw 1,800 and assumed it was in pounds. That's why I said I wondered if it was in error as I know the breaking strength of the Jammy, it's also why I said almost half as 7mm Sterling is like 2,800lbs.


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The Beal cordage (right) is almost identical to the Edelrid (center). The Edelrid is slightly stiffer.

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Raisins can you post a pic? I just switched to the resctech and got the sterling trc cord too. I’m thinking if I make an adjustable bridge, I can lose the second one. Anywho, I’d love to see it.

here's an explanation first

 
Raisins can you post a pic? I just switched to the resctech and got the sterling trc cord too. I’m thinking if I make an adjustable bridge, I can lose the second one. Anywho, I’d love to see it.

that's a figure 8 on a bight with the loop turned into a 2 wrap prusik on the bridge loops

i use follow through methods so i do not cut any rope until i have it as i'll want it at the end, i also tie it, then sit in the saddle to stretch everything and then adjust as needed until it settles how i'd like, i loosen the knots using an aluminum knitting needle as needed to move rope through knots

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Raisins can you post a pic? I just switched to the resctech and got the sterling trc cord too. I’m thinking if I make an adjustable bridge, I can lose the second one. Anywho, I’d love to see it.

this is the left side because as a rightie, i am less likely to rotate hard clockwise, so i put the larger assembly where it is less likely to get into the tether carabiner

i am only use a 2 wrap prusik on the saddle bridge loops and a 3 loop on the bridge line because the prusiks really grab compressible webbing well

on the 6 mm trc, i leave the tag ends coming out of the triple fishermen's knot long enough that i have bent them to overlap each other and then tied them together with thick thread to keep them out of the way while still having enough tag end to assure nothing will slip

this setup is easy to do (unless you are ocd like me and like everything tied just so) and has worked flawlessly

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What is your hiccup with the TRC? Just looking for insight as I use it currently and like it but also have not explored other options as well

I don't like Technocra I guess. It never seemed to bite as well for me as other rope / hitch combos. I honestly don't think there is a great choice for the 8mm ropes when it comes to hitch cord. I have tried a bunch of different ones. In the end I just went back to a larger diameter rope. That's just my opinion though, I know plenty of people use and love 8mm rope.


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I don't like Technocra I guess. It never seemed to bite as well for me as other rope / hitch combos. I honestly don't think there is a great choice for the 8mm ropes when it comes to hitch cord. I have tried a bunch of different ones. In the end I just went back to a larger diameter rope. That's just my opinion though, I know plenty of people use and love 8mm rope.


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what hitch and how many wraps are you using?

i'm only around 190 to 200 lbs in my hunting clothes, and a 'regular' distel hitch with 6 mm trc on oplux for my tether would slip slowly under my weight when it was a new setup that was dressed well

i just added an additional wrap to the distel hitch and now it works great

the original setup might've stopped slipping with time, but i didn't want to wait or risk
 
I don't like Technocra I guess. It never seemed to bite as well for me as other rope / hitch combos. I honestly don't think there is a great choice for the 8mm ropes when it comes to hitch cord. I have tried a bunch of different ones. In the end I just went back to a larger diameter rope. That's just my opinion though, I know plenty of people use and love 8mm rope.


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I don’t like technora either. It has great heat resistance and abrasion resistance. But it absorbs water, it does not stretch which means even though it’s tensile strength is excellent, it’s dynamic loading capabilities are not. Add in the fact that of all synthetic rope material it is one of if not the worst at handling UV degradation, the only true positive I see for technora is the heat resistance. I don’t plan on constantly adjusting while under load, which would be burning my bridge’s friction hitch. so that heat resistance doesn’t mean much to me.
 
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I don’t like technora either. It has great heat resistance and abrasion resistance. But it absorbs water, it does not stretch which means even though it’s tensile strength is excellent, it’s dynamic loading capabilities are not. Add in the fact that of all synthetic rope material it is one of if not the worst at handling UV degradation, the only true positive I see for technora is the heat resistance. I don’t plan on constantly adjusting while under load, this burning my bridge’s friction hitch so that heat resistance doesn’t mean much to me.

good info....might make me move away from oplux and trc.....funny that technora can't take the sun but you can hold it over a gas range and it won't melt
 
good info....might make me move away from oplux and trc.....funny that technora can't take the sun but you can hold it over a gas range and it won't melt
Yea heat vs UV rays. When I think of technora it’s strong and light (but not as strong or light as amsteel) it has amazing heat resistance but it absorbs water almost as badly as nylon. At least amsteel doesn’t absorb water and handles UV better than any other synthetic rope material. Also when I look at it from dynamic loading capabilities, neither technora or amsteel stretch, so they are not ideal, it’s the reason why I tell guys not to use 1/8” amsteel on their bridges use 3/16 or larger. You want the extra strength to offset the loss from lack of stretch in a dynamic event. Truly the industry has gotten way from using 7/16” climbing polyester or polyester/nylon ropes with 8 or 9mm friction hitches. It was cheaper to use those types of ropes for tethers and bridges and truthfully outside of the bulk, they were better. Safer, easier to adjust… just not convenient due to bulk and weight savings. I love my amsteel, but I have zero quarrels using 11mm climbing line either.
 
Yea heat vs UV rays. When I think of technora it’s strong and light (but not as strong or light as amsteel) it has amazing heat resistance but it absorbs water almost as badly as nylon. At least amsteel doesn’t absorb water and handles UV better than any other synthetic rope material. Also when I look at it from dynamic loading capabilities, neither technora or amsteel stretch, so they are not ideal, it’s the reason why I tell guys not to use 1/8” amsteel on their bridges use 3/16 or larger. You want the extra strength to offset the loss from lack of stretch in a dynamic event. Truly the industry has gotten way from using 7/16” climbing polyester or polyester/nylon ropes with 8 or 9mm friction hitches. It was cheaper to use those types of ropes for tethers and bridges and truthfully outside of the bulk, they were better. Safer, easier to adjust… just not convenient due to bulk and weight savings. I love my amsteel, but I have zero quarrels using 11mm climbing line either.

amsteel is amazing stuff.....chemical resistance tables state you can soak it in strong solvents and it doesn't bother it (don't quote me but gasoline, acetone, ethanol, etc)
 
I've looked at that and have a Jammy. What I don't like is the MBS is almost half of 7mm accessory cord and the Edelrid 6mm cord is rated at like 20kN.

I have often wondered if the description of that cordage is incorrect.


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FYI: When sewn and tested, the Beal 5.5mm has a higher MBS than the Edelrid 6mm. I have slings in both, custom & stock, that have been tested and labeled... I find that Beal 5.5 works better than the Edelrid 6mm, for me, on 8mm RescTech.
 
amsteel is amazing stuff.....chemical resistance tables state you can soak it in strong solvents and it doesn't bother it (don't quote me but gasoline, acetone, ethanol, etc)
Chemicals have minimal effect on amsteel compared to other rope materials the exception being bleach. Bleach can effect it but even after 6 months submersion, amsteel kept 91% of its original strength. It is an amazing synthetic fiber
Here’s a link to some of the attributes to amsteel and other Samson ropes
 
This. Amsteel is magnet for burrs. Resc Tech doesn't get them.
I had a Amstel bridge on my Cruzr Archon all season and I walk through a ton of burrs and beggars lice and never had one on my bridge!:). Only thing I noticed with Amstel is it’s hard to loosen the prusik even with a tender. Almost always need 2 hand to loosen or work hard with 1 hand. Everyone I’m Sure has a different opinion! Good luck.
 
what hitch and how many wraps are you using?

i'm only around 190 to 200 lbs in my hunting clothes, and a 'regular' distel hitch with 6 mm trc on oplux for my tether would slip slowly under my weight when it was a new setup that was dressed well

i just added an additional wrap to the distel hitch and now it works great

the original setup might've stopped slipping with time, but i didn't want to wait or risk

If we are talking about a bridge I used a Prusik when testing on OpLux. I have settled on Sterling HTP (9mm) with Sterling 7mm accessory cord for a Prusik as my bridge. The rope is very stiff and has some friction with sliding through my beaner and the accessory cord bites very well and is also fairly easily adjusted. It does not seem to change regardless of the weather.

If you are asking when I tried it for a tether; I then used a traditional Distel hitch. I weigh 240 lbs, it just wasn't reliable for me and when adding an extra wrap it then bit too hard. I went back to Predator for a tether using a Sterling 8mm Flex Hitch Cord in an Eye to Eye for a Distel Hitch. That combination for me works in any weather condition and is extremely predictable. I probably try way to many configurations looking for a smaller option that works equally as well for me.lol


FYI: When sewn and tested, the Beal 5.5mm has a higher MBS than the Edelrid 6mm. I have slings in both, custom & stock, that have been tested and labeled... I find that Beal 5.5 works better than the Edelrid 6mm, for me, on 8mm RescTech.

I had read that to be the case in the sling configurations as per their ratings. I'd be interested in seeing the results of the custom ones, especially if in a sewn eye to eye configuration. I do not want to derail this thread but I am looking for cordage to use in various hitch configurations for Edelrid Swift Protect Pro Dry which is 8.9mm Dynamic rope. Feel free to PM me.
 
If we are talking about a bridge I used a Prusik when testing on OpLux. I have settled on Sterling HTP (9mm) with Sterling 7mm accessory cord for a Prusik as my bridge. The rope is very stiff and has some friction with sliding through my beaner and the accessory cord bites very well and is also fairly easily adjusted. It does not seem to change regardless of the weather.

If you are asking when I tried it for a tether; I then used a traditional Distel hitch. I weigh 240 lbs, it just wasn't reliable for me and when adding an extra wrap it then bit too hard. I went back to Predator for a tether using a Sterling 8mm Flex Hitch Cord in an Eye to Eye for a Distel Hitch. That combination for me works in any weather condition and is extremely predictable. I probably try way to many configurations looking for a smaller option that works equally as well for me.lol




I had read that to be the case in the sling configurations as per their ratings. I'd be interested in seeing the results of the custom ones, especially if in a sewn eye to eye configuration. I do not want to derail this thread but I am looking for cordage to use in various hitch configurations for Edelrid Swift Protect Pro Dry which is 8.9mm Dynamic rope. Feel free to PM me.
Since you are using dynamic rope, have you considered using a dynamic friction hitch as well? Bluewater makes some if 6.5mm which would be perfect on 8.9mm rope, you can buy presewn for prusiks or I believe a small reel. They do not sell it by the foot though
 
I had a Amstel bridge on my Cruzr Archon all season and I walk through a ton of burrs and beggars lice and never had one on my bridge!:). Only thing I noticed with Amstel is it’s hard to loosen the prusik even with a tender. Almost always need 2 hand to loosen or work hard with 1 hand. Everyone I’m Sure has a different opinion! Good luck.
My Phantom has an Amsteel bridge and Prussic. We use it for prepping trees. My Transformer is what I hunt out of. It has Rech Tech Bridge and Sterling. My Platform has a rope mod and is set up like the bridge on my Transformer. Last spring every time we came back from prepping trees, that Amsteel bridge was covered in burrs, especially the Prussic. I hunted all season w/ my Transformer and platform. There were hardly any burrs on the saddle, the bridge or the platform rope. Also there were 2 of us. Mu hunting partner hardly had any either. Maybe we have different kinda hitchhikers out here but where I hunt they get on everything. I bring them into the house all season much to my wife's dislike. My wife calls it burr season not hunting season!
 
I'm 5'11" amd 235lbs. 8 mmResc tech and 6mm Sterling work well for me. No slipage. My hitch is Stich hitch which Brocky posted. I use it my tether, bridge and saddle platform. On the platfor it is just a Michoican. It works well.
 
this is the left side because as a rightie, i am less likely to rotate hard clockwise, so i put the larger assembly where it is less likely to get into the tether carabiner

i am only use a 2 wrap prusik on the saddle bridge loops and a 3 loop on the bridge line because the prusiks really grab compressible webbing well

on the 6 mm trc, i leave the tag ends coming out of the triple fishermen's knot long enough that i have bent them to overlap each other and then tied them together with thick thread to keep them out of the way while still having enough tag end to assure nothing will slip

this setup is easy to do (unless you are ocd like me and like everything tied just so) and has worked flawlessly

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I'm thinking of replacing my bridge with something like this. How much of each rope did you need to make this setup?
 
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