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Why don't yall 2TC?

Red Beard said:
Honestly, I didn't rappel at all this past season. I'm one of those that now thinks coming down with two tethers is easier than carrying extra rope into the woods.
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I know I'm guilty of not posting one yet, but you're gonna make a video of climbing down just 2TC right?
 
Samcirrus said:
I know I'm guilty of not posting one yet, but you're gonna make a video of climbing down just 2TC right?
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Ha. I ain't made a video in quite awhile. Guess I could though. It's just the same in reverse though. ;) Again, the key is to make short movements. This ensures that you don't wind up with the knee of your foot tether leg, up in your chest.
 
Anyone try using a naider instead of the thigh loop? Not sure if it will work but I am thinking of trying it before buying a thigh loop.
 
Samcirrus said:
Many of us do rappel, north40, red beard, me etc... .....they're just saying you dont need to rappel to get down, it's less weight to not have a rappel rope, if you dont go so high it's a bother to setup and then have to wrap up a rappel rope, etc...
I always rappel because I use my rappel rope as my main tether. I have no 3rd tether or lineman belt on me.
Your idea is perfectly reasonable and therefore you should try it.
What you NEED for 2TC is very very minimal.... but when you add desire for functionality and comfort and organization... then you get more things attached.
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No third tether.....how do you get up around limbs???
 
TDubbs12 said:
No third tether.....how do you get up around limbs???
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That's a video for the spring but basically:
1. Advance tether to the base of the limb
2. Detatch the footloop from the trunk and re-girth hitch above the limb
3. Connect this new tether to bridge and the old tether become your foot loop
3.1 How you shift your weight to the new tether is up to you. You could wrap your legs around the tree, use an arm to pull yourself up with the branch or use a length of amsteel as a temp footloop. Regardless, once your weight is shifted to the new tether, you can slacken the old tether.
 
I tried 2tc for the first time today. It will just be another tool for the tool box. I think I may use it only when I plan to "scout hunt" when I may be walking all day in the mountains it will save weight from my one stick. It was a quiet, effective system. For me 2tc was more physically challenging and slower then my one stick with 3 step aider.I know speed doesn't matter and will come with more practice but I also see an advantage in having a stick to stand on as I set a platform. Definitely will do more of this and tinker.
 
MNFarmHunter said:
That's a video for the spring but basically:
1. Advance tether to the base of the limb
2. Detatch the footloop from the trunk and re-girth hitch above the limb
3. Connect this new tether to bridge and the old tether become your foot loop
3.1 How you shift your weight to the new tether is up to you. You could wrap your legs around the tree, use an arm to pull yourself up with the branch or use a length of amsteel as a temp footloop. Regardless, once your weight is shifted to the new tether, you can slacken the old tether.
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Thanks for the input - I better master it with the 3rd tether first.
 
In my earlier post I said speed isn't everything and that's true but I do find myself racing out to get the last 2 hours in before dark after work. Sometimes that few minutes faster of being set up and still is the difference in getting busted or not. Not ideal but if that's all I got I find myself rushing into a spot as quiet as I can to be set before they get out of their beds. I believe my one stick is the answer in that instance. Fast up the tree and it is my hunting platform all in one hard to beat if u don't have a preset.
 
TDubbs12 said:
No third tether.....how do you get up around limbs???
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I climb with only two tethers as well. I use a kong duck on my main tether, this is what I'll hang from at height. On my second tether I have two klemheist hitches. I climb my foot loop into my lower klemheist, my upper klemheist is used as a stopper knot to keep my foot tether from sliding until I get to a limb. Once at a limb my process is as follows.

1. advance main tether to the bottom of the limb, get as close to it as possible.
2. advance foot loop tether as close to that as possible, make sure you'll be able to stand in the foot loop still, and then attach my upper klemheist to my saddle bridge.
3. once the upper klemheist is weighted and I know it's my current weight bearing object I then loosen the duck and remove the top tether from the tree and reposition it above the branch/limb.
4. reconnect the duck and transition weight onto it.
5. disconnect the upper klemheist from my bridge and stand up in footloop to move upper tether up.
6. pass the branch with my footloop tether.
 
krub6b said:
I climb with only two tethers as well. I use a kong duck on my main tether, this is what I'll hang from at height. On my second tether I have two klemheist hitches. I climb my foot loop into my lower klemheist, my upper klemheist is used as a stopper knot to keep my foot tether from sliding until I get to a limb. Once at a limb my process is as follows.

1. advance main tether to the bottom of the limb, get as close to it as possible.
2. advance foot loop tether as close to that as possible, make sure you'll be able to stand in the foot loop still, and then attach my upper klemheist to my saddle bridge.
3. once the upper klemheist is weighted and I know it's my current weight bearing object I then loosen the duck and remove the top tether from the tree and reposition it above the branch/limb.
4. reconnect the duck and transition weight onto it.
5. disconnect the upper klemheist from my bridge and stand up in footloop to move upper tether up.
6. pass the branch with my footloop tether.
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Hmmm, this is passing a limb option I had never even thought of but may be the easiest option yet. I carry a hollowblock and a spare biner in my saddle pouch and this would be the least gymnastic approach to transferring loads.

As an aside, this is the one thing I truly like about this site. With everyone out trying new ways to do the same thing, someone is bound to come up with a simpler way.
 
MNFarmHunter said:
Hmmm, this is passing a limb option I had never even thought of but may be the easiest option yet. I carry a hollowblock and a spare biner in my saddle pouch and this would be the least gymnastic approach to transferring loads.

As an aside, this is the one thing I truly like about this site. With everyone out trying new ways to do the same thing, someone is bound to come up with a simpler way.
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one thing I didn't mention is that I have my bridge adjusted very short for climbing, If you don't have an adjustable bridge I would recommend adding a second bridge that is barely long enough to go between your bridge loops for passing limbs this way.
 
Shed84 said:
In my earlier post I said speed isn't everything and that's true but I do find myself racing out to get the last 2 hours in before dark after work. Sometimes that few minutes faster of being set up and still is the difference in getting busted or not. Not ideal but if that's all I got I find myself rushing into a spot as quiet as I can to be set before they get out of their beds. I believe my one stick is the answer in that instance. Fast up the tree and it is my hunting platform all in one hard to beat if u don't have a preset.
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This was my 2021 season in a nutshell. Always getting out late, and fiddling with 3 sticks at the base of the tree way too late. Hope is to get fast enough w srt presets and 2TC. 5 minutes is my limit, so long as I’m not more than 5 minutes slower than a 1 sticker with same amt of practice, I’ll skip the stick.


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just wanted to add i try this before some time ago got frustrated and bagged it.this time around i started out frustrated by it.its a little complicated to learn.it takes some practice to figyer out the rope adjustments, and get comfforitable.but once i figured it out.i just breeze through it, it seems
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, and I know it's been said in many threads, but you guys suck. Now I have another saddle related expense! Lol.
I've always hunted private properties where bolts were permitted but I am expanding my horizons and need to apply public legal climbing. I hate sticks but will use them if I have to.
But 2tc intrigues me. I'd like to give it a fair try. I've read this thread and my head is spinning.
I need to watch the videos.
Like any aspect of what we are doing, these tactics morph as time goes on, and a lot of what we do is very individual.

One question I have, are Recon type saddles with bungee belt, webbing bridge, and no leg straps compatible with 2tc?
Thanks for all the input.
 
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