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Why don't yall 2TC?

Allegheny Tom said:
I've been reading every post in this thread (lol, one guy's spelling and typing skills makes his posts a bit hard to read. he knows who he is:)),but regardless, I've followed this thread pretty closely.
Which is how I came to wonder if those bolt pedals might be useful to some guys...obviously not everyone, but some guys experiencing foot discomfort might find them useful. Could be just a starting point for some newbies like me. I'm a pretty agile climber for an old guy so they might not be something I'd need once I get dialed in. Just thought I'd mention them. Suggestions get the creative juices flowing.
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No, you're right. It is a new idea... and might even be attractive to the minimalist who just wants to use a rope. If they passed the rope through the bolt hole it would be a wider surface area that could be less painful....keep all the suggestions coming!
 
gcr0003 said:
I think it comes down to balance and practice. Some people are going to be able to balance better than others. At what point in your climb was your kick out? When you first weighted it? While you were standing? While you were moving your tether up? Other? Wrapping the heel of your opposite foot into the side of the tree helps. I imagine a lineman’s belt would aid as well. Most of my kick outs are minor and I typical feel them before they happen so I can throw a hand up to counterbalance and reset. I think you get a better feel the more you do it.
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Yeah, it was about 12’ into the climb; I think I just got lackadaisical as I was raising my tether. I also think the positioning of my foot was too far to the side of the tree and not in the middle. Thanks for the advice
 
Samcirrus said:
1" thick black hose has been working for me and grips the tree real well yet is easy to slide off if I want to SRT instead of 2TC...
I've been using a piece about 2/3rds of the diameter of most trees I'd climb, but the biggest issue is the set size so because its rigid its hard to then use on smaller or larger trees. We'd have to make it adjustable in length...somehow
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Here is what has been working.....as soon as I loosen the girth hitch, the hose springs the loop open making it easy to push up, and because it grips well I dont even have to tighten the girth hitch loop tight, my body weight makes it catch and hold, even on my barkless pine tree.20220314_195049.jpg20220314_195105.jpg
 
Marmuzz said:
And just like that we’re to arborist spurs?
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It wouldn’t be near the size as a gaff, I was thinking just a small 1/2” or so spike that you could press onto the tree as you stand in the foot loop since the toes slipping is essentially what a “kick out” is for 2tc. Personally I don’t think it’s necessary but we are throwing out all kinds of ideas and this crossed my mind a while back. No where near the size weight or complexity of tree gaffs though.
 
Samcirrus said:
Here is what has been working.....as soon as I loosen the girth hitch, the hose springs the loop open making it easy to push up, and because it grips well I dont even have to tighten the girth hitch loop tight, my body weight makes it catch and hold, even on my barkless pine tree.View attachment 63328View attachment 63329
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Video please
 
Ok, I have been thinking about going around limbs. What I have come up with is the idea (I'm sure not new) to carry a webbing daisy chain with a carabiner on it clipped to the back of my saddle. I don't like anything on my saddle normally but a lineman's rope or something like that is not too bad. The idea is that when I need to go around limbs, I can use the daisy chain to tether in with while moving my top tether up over the limb, then reattach and put the daisy chain back. The reason to use the daisy chain is that more often than not I won't need to advance around limbs so would not need to carry an additional lineman's belt, but I would need a bow hanger/backpack strap every time and the daisy chain would serve that purpose. I looked at all last season's climbs and 2TC would have worked on 85% of the trees I climbed without going around a limb and I would only need to use a set up like this 5% of the time. Thoughts?
 
NMSbowhunter said:
Ok, I have been thinking about going around limbs. What I have come up with is the idea (I'm sure not new) to carry a webbing daisy chain with a carabiner on it clipped to the back of my saddle. I don't like anything on my saddle normally but a lineman's rope or something like that is not too bad. The idea is that when I need to go around limbs, I can use the daisy chain to tether in with while moving my top tether up over the limb, then reattach and put the daisy chain back. The reason to use the daisy chain is that more often than not I won't need to advance around limbs so would not need to carry an additional lineman's belt, but I would need a bow hanger/backpack strap every time and the daisy chain would serve that purpose. I looked at all last season's climbs and 2TC would have worked on 85% of the trees I climbed without going around a limb and I would only need to use a set up like this 5% of the time. Thoughts?
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I like it. I do the same
 
Red Beard said:
I like it. I do the same
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Ok good deal! I wanted to know if that was a good idea or not. I would think a webbing daisy chain would be pretty strong. Just avoid hooking up in the last loop for safety's sake.
 
NMSbowhunter said:
Ok good deal! I wanted to know if that was a good idea or not. I would think a webbing daisy chain would be pretty strong. Just avoid hooking up in the last loop for safety's sake.
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If you’re talking like a daisy chain that comes from your eno or hammock then I would said it wouldn’t meet safety standard but would probably hold you until it didn’t. If you make your own you’d probably be good. I’m sure most think of the Amsteel daisy chain when they think daisy chain and in that case it would be plenty strong enough. I think some people climb on them as their primary tethers. I would still size appropriately. I don’t see anything wrong with the concept other than make sure your accessory daisy chain is going to be able to hold your weight plus a couple factors of safety.
 
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