@Schemeecho I very much appreciate your thoughts on your use of dump/roll pouches. But I'm less appreciative of what I feel is a condescending and preachy tone about how Jeremy_D or I should communicate with each other or in this thread. Sure, there was a bit of passion behind our words, but I don't think that anyone could say it wasn't civil. So to speak to your comments: I have not lost sight of why we are here, and I am sharing my thoughts and experiences for the same passion. We're all aware that everybody does things differently, and that that will often lead to some interesting and sometimes animated exchanges. Doesn't mean that anybody needs to step in to try and quell some civil and spirited debate....about pouches