Rompola Buck Update

[Swampwalker]

Depends which side of the Iron wall you sit.

 

[1simplemann]

Just to clear up a few things, Mitch used a Ben Pearson recurve and a Pearson Deadhead broadhead to kill his first buck, a Missouri State record at the time, pictured below.

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Ricky, Is this the supposed Missouri State record? If so, what did it score? Was it ever entered in their record book? How old was he when he killed it? Just curious. I can't keep them all straight.

 

[1simplemann]

Maybe you're mixing up 2 different stories? The 200"+ non-typical you're referring to was apparently shot with a field point (accidentally), and there are indeed pictures of it (or at least of the mount).

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What book did these pics come from? How old was he when he killed this one?

 

[woodsdog2]

This one.

 

[woodsdog2]

Continues here:

 

[woodsdog2]

Some more:

 

[arrow30]

you can see the missouri buck in this video, just the rack with the broadhead mounted under it.
not a fully mounted head.

 

[ricky racer]

Ricky, Is this the supposed Missouri State record? If so, what did it score? Was it ever entered in their record book? How old was he when he killed it? Just curious. I can't keep them all straight.

According to Dan Bertalan's book, Whitetail Masters, Mitch shot that buck in 1958 when he was 9 years old. The buck measured 153". When Mitch was 14 years old he killed his second record buck which measured 208-6/8 as a non-typical and 188 typical. Both bucks were killed in Missouri. In between those bucks he killed some smaller bucks and does.

 

[BackSpasm]

you can see the missouri buck in this video, just the rack with the broadhead mounted under it.
not a fully mounted head.

Does he name THREE state record deer in Missouri in this video?

 

[1simplemann]

According to Dan Bertalan's book, Whitetail Masters, Mitch shot that buck in 1958 when he was 9 years old. The buck measured 153". When Mitch was 14 years old he killed his second record buck which measured 208-6/8 as a non-typical and 188 typical. Both bucks were killed in Missouri. In between those bucks he killed some smaller bucks and does.

So there was 2 state record bucks from Missouri before the age of 15? Were any of these officially entered?

 

[Swampwalker]

 

[woodsdog2]

Look at all those bucks he killed before the controversial one! There is a section in the above referenced book on Traverse City too.

 

[ricky racer]

So there was 2 state record bucks from Missouri before the age of 15? Were any of these officially entered?

I don't know. Did an official state record keeping organization even exist in the 50's or 60's? I doubt it.

 

[Swampwalker]

I don't know. Did an official state record keeping organization even exist in the 50's or 60's? I doubt it.

Then simply man, they're not state records.

 

[BackSpasm]

So lets say he did somehow kill multiple state records with a bow before he could drive... Does that signal to any of you who hunt big deer that was some kind of prodigy with a sixth sense who knew how to find the biggest deer in the state as a child, and that later the biggest deer in michigan history happened to be across the street from his house at an airport?

 

[Swampwalker]

Yep.

 

[ricky racer]

We all know or have hunted with guys that seem to have the nack of putting themselves in the right spot at the right time. There is no doubt that some guys have it and most guys don't. John Eberhart is a good example of this. He's been killing big bucks for years, since he was a young man without most of the knowledge he's gained over the decade's. My guess is, Mitch is one of those guys.

 

[BackSpasm]

Not just a consistent big buck killer though, killing the biggest ever multiple times starting from early childhood? Just the odds of being remotely CLOSE in distance to that many state records of ALL of the deer in a state in all of history feels astronomical right? And killing a wider deer by 30% than any ever seen in history in Michigan? The margins just don't make sense and as ole @Nutterbuster said, Eberhart's deer are all on display for you to see and have been scored and examined rather than hidden away and lost in house fires....

Edit: by the way John Eberhart, a true killer and local, also thinks he's full of it

 

[HuumanCreed]

So lets say he did somehow kill multiple state records with a bow before he could drive... Does that signal to any of you who hunt big deer that was some kind of prodigy with a sixth sense who knew how to find the biggest deer in the state as a child, and that later the biggest deer in michigan history happened to be across the street from his house at an airport?

I believe in statistic and bell curve, so anything is possible. Totally believable that a 9 years old can luck into a record buck. But repeated record breaking multiplies the odds of being possible, it does not increase odds. Like 1 out of 100 chances the first time, 1/10000 second time, etc. So the chances of him getting multiple record bucks in a location that scientifically (as in mineral make up, geographic, etc) does not product big bucks make me question the validity of it, which I think its a fair viewpoint.

I also think its valid to question his antlers submission because he was also the commissioner for the CBM. I'm sure that he was well respected and so not a lot of people question his word or anything he submitted. If he trained some of the score keepers, would any of them really speak up even to themselves that anything look strange? I'm basing this on human nature to trust authority, especially people you look up to.

If someone told me to go check John Eberthart gears for scent, do you know what would be the process?

"John, is your gear good to go?"

"Yeah"

"Ok good enough, sorry to bother you sir, have a good night"

The Exodus podcast point was very convincing in the fact that 100% taxidermists agreed there was something strange about the antler, not a single one has come forward saying no doubt its real. I trust people words that work in their field.

 

[ricky racer]

Not just a consistent big buck killer though, killing the biggest ever multiple times starting from early childhood? Just the odds of being remotely CLOSE in distance to that many state records of ALL of the deer in a state in all of history feels astronomical right? And killing a wider deer by 30% than any ever seen in history in Michigan? The margins just don't make sense and as ole @Nutterbuster said, Eberhart's deer are all on display for you to see and have been scored and examined rather than hidden away and lost in house fires....

Edit: by the way John Eberhart, a true killer and local, also thinks he's full of it

I'm not sticking up for Mitch but you claim that the odds are astronomical to live in proximity of many record book bucks. However, I assume you have no problem with John Eberhart doing the same thing even likely killing more record book bucks than Mitch?