IF they’re the same as the ones EWO sells and are used on the Pioneer saddle, @DanO lists them at 15kN MBS:I have this setup on my Dryad hammock. I am also seeing this used on saddle leg straps. On the Austrialpin web site they call these
belt buckles and do not list a Kn rating. Are these OK to use in this application?
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Yes in a webbing run through the slot application. I am not so sure in the application shown, see link.IF they’re the same as the ones EWO sells and are used on the Pioneer saddle, @DanO lists them at 15kN MBS:
https://doublesteps.com/product/frame-buckle-1/
Maybe I’m confused by the original question. What application? Bridge connection? As in, would the rating be similar for a bridge connection?Yes in a webbing run through the slot application. I am not so sure in the application shown, see link.
Belt Buckles – AustriAlpin
austrialpin.net
Maybe @always89y can help and let us know if he has done any load testing.
This application. John at Tactisaddle is also doing this as a quick release buckle on his tree stand safety harness. But John also offers a Cobra buckle upgrade.Maybe I’m confused by the original question. What application? Bridge connection? As in, would the rating be similar for a bridge connection?
Does a magnet stick to them?I have those buckles and I could not find a rating for them. They feel aluminum. For the bridge on my Wraptor I ended up going with the steel buckles the EWO sells, and they are rated at about 5000 lbs if memory serves, and they are quite a bit heavier duty than the Austri Alpin buckles. For a belt application I would think they would be fine. I did not trust them myself for life support. I could be wrong on that. But with no rating I was not ready to use them that way.
Rock N Arbor seem like some solid people pairing up with good people from our community and bringing more equipment and testing on gear they sell and we use. Love to see it. Thanks for sharing.I asked Rock N Arbor and they did this test for me. Not sure how the 1.75" buckle would perform?
Is this strong enough, @Fl Canopy Stalker ?
1955#'s...where my little debbiesI asked Rock N Arbor and they did this test for me. Not sure how the 1.75" buckle would perform?
Is this strong enough, @Fl Canopy Stalker ?
Those buckles are rated to 15kN (around 3360 lbs) as long as you use them TOGETHER like they did in the video. They stopped listing it on the AustriAlpin site but the provide the info in the buyers catalog they provide distributors. They are plenty strong enough for most (if not all) things we doI asked Rock N Arbor and they did this test for me. Not sure how the 1.75" buckle would perform?
Is this strong enough, @Fl Canopy Stalker ?
I am thinking about getting some straps made and using them to attach some tree steps. Light and easy to attach with gloves on.Those buckles are rated to 15kN (around 3360 lbs) as long as you use them TOGETHER like they did in the video. They stopped listing it on the AustriAlpin site but the provide the info in the buyers catalog they provide distributors. They are plenty strong enough for most (if not all) things we do
I am thinking about getting some straps made and using them to attach some tree steps. Light and easy to attach with gloves on.
@raisins what you think?
I like the truckers hitch. Just with gloves on, these would be nice. The 2 buckles are under 1 oz plus the webbing. I only run 2 to 4 steps plus some sticks.You're just gonna betray the trucker's hitch like that?
Lol....I'd need 12 of them which would get expensive, heavy, and jangly.
I haven’t tested it but it’s my understanding from speaking with their account rep that the 15 is only maintained when both buckles are used in conjunction with each other. Since most people were ordering the frame buckle alone, they removed the rating from the website since that wasn’t the intent of the buckle to be used alone. They make a special heavy duty tri glide frame if you want the 15 kn rating without an additional part but it’s much heavier and bulkierThis is a good test for the pairing of the frame buckle and slot buckle where the former fits into the latter as shown in the videos and various images on this thread. But most applications I’ve seen (which I’m just some internet hobbyist mind you) is the frame buckle alone making a continuous loop with the webbing doubling over itself in the hardware (i.e. UltimAider). It is correct the 15 kN rating is maintained in that configuration too?
And related but minor tangent- for the life of me @gcr0003 I can’t figure out how using these AA frame buckles on your bridge you had the webbing slip (you mentioned this in another thread). It is tough for me to pull out the tubular webbing in my UltimAider using my fingers and working at it for minutes. No play or wiggle room at all.
Got it. Thanks for weighing in. Good to see you round these parts more as of late, sir!I haven’t tested it but it’s my understanding from speaking with their account rep that the 15 is only maintained when both buckles are used in conjunction with each other. Since most people were ordering the frame buckle alone, they removed the rating from the website since that wasn’t the intent of the buckle to be used alone. They make a special heavy duty tri glide frame if you want the 15 kn rating without an additional part but it’s much heavier and bulkier