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Aiming

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How do you each of you aim? I would have made a poll but I'm not even sure of all the different ways to aim at this point...

Thanks

I should add, I'm trying to see if there's a consensus on best aiming method for hunting
 
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I shoot instinctively and don't focus on an aiming reference. I have tried gap shooting in the past but, for me personally it tends to take my focus away from executing my shot and I shoot worse. I am sure I could work through that with practice but, I am confident to 20 yds just by looking at/watching the spot I want to hit and then focusing on executing a good shot. So, I just try to get within 20 yds of whatever animal I want to shoot.
 
I shoot instinctively and don't focus on an aiming reference. I have tried gap shooting in the past but, for me personally it tends to take my focus away from executing my shot and I shoot worse. I am sure I could work through that with practice but, I am confident to 20 yds just by looking at/watching the spot I want to hit and then focusing on executing a good shot. So, I just try to get within 20 yds of whatever animal I want to shoot.

Hmm. Then are you interested in 3D shooting at all? What about just for fun taking a longer shot in the yard at semi/random distance? From the post I understand hunting scenario of shots being within 20 yards. So are you saying that you do employ some other method if target is outside 20 yards or you accept that after 20 yards instinctively its not going to be as accurate but the tradeoff of accuracy/confident/focus within 20 yards is worth you not messing with what works for you?
 
Hmm. Then are you interested in 3D shooting at all? What about just for fun taking a longer shot in the yard at semi/random distance? From the post I understand hunting scenario of shots being within 20 yards. So are you saying that you do employ some other method if target is outside 20 yards or you accept that after 20 yards instinctively its not going to be as accurate but the tradeoff of accuracy/confident/focus within 20 yards is worth you not messing with what works for you?

Oh, I fling arrows instinctively past 20 yds all of the time in the yard and on the 3d course. Sometimes I even hit what I am shooting at. :) I just accept that the way I shoot limits me to 20 yds in the woods. Frankly, most of the guys I see using an aiming method would be better off limiting themselves to 20 yds at game anyway.
 
I shoot instinctively and don't focus on an aiming reference. I have tried gap shooting in the past but, for me personally it tends to take my focus away from executing my shot and I shoot worse. I am sure I could work through that with practice but, I am confident to 20 yds just by looking at/watching the spot I want to hit and then focusing on executing a good shot. So, I just try to get within 20 yds of whatever animal I want to shoot.
I'm very similar but I'd like to add a few things that I do in my "aiming" process.
I describe my aiming as "full body" aiming. I try to align my shoulders, I try to push the bow handle precisely towards the intended arc of the arrow, at the same time my draw is 180 degrees opposite of the arc of the arrow. Everything, even my fingers, is working in the aiming process. Both limbs should be working towards pushing that arrow straight out of the bow...not unequal pressure on either limb. I do get my bow arm up and pointed toward the arc of the arrow before I begin the actual draw...kinda like a pre-aim. I believe it helps me keep everything in line as I put pressure on the string. And having the bow up before I begin the draw helps confirm the bow limbs have clearance of any obstructions. It's a concentration killer to feel the bow (or my elbow) contact anything during the draw cycle. Contact with anything means I cannot execute an accurate shot...I'll have to put it down and re-draw.
That's how I aim for hunting situations. I don't shoot on deer at over 20 yards, so this method works okay for me. I'd venture to say that gap shooting, fixed crawl, face walking, etc would be more effective for longer distances, but I'm with @GCTerpfan...those methods keep me from concentrating on my form.
 
How do you each of you aim? I would have made a poll but I'm not even sure of all the different ways to aim at this point...

Thanks

I should add, I'm trying to see if there's a consensus on best aiming method for hunting
I instinctively shoot but since taking a decade off from it ive started using a string walking/instintive combo.
 
I raise the bow into shooting position and "pre-aim" before I begin drawing. I look at my spot, draw while focusing on the spot, at anchor I look down the shaft for alignment and refocus on the spot, pull through until the shot breaks.
Great explanation. This is pretty much exactly the same thing I do; mostly unconsciously. Just never really thought about the steps prior to looking down the shaft for alignment and refocusing on the spot.
 
I shoot instinctively also. I tried to figure out Howard Hill's split vision technique and I have tried gap shooting. For me instinctive just works best. I basically just intently look at the spot I want to hit and draw back and try and get a clean release. After doing this enough times your brain figures it out. One thing I also do is what is called "shooting the wand". Take a stick or string and place it on the backstop. Any hit along this vertical line is a hit. Do that a bunch. then move the stick or string horizontal. Repeat the process. This trains you to get the right-left and up down part zeroed in.

I practice a lot at small objects at unknown distances. From the top of my shop I shoot at pine cones, sticks, and anything else handy. For deer I limit my shots to 20 yards and in and set up my anticipated shots accordingly.

I also like to do stump shooting in the woods. It will really point out deficiencies in judging distances.
 
Instinctive here, too. I tried using the arrow as a conscious aiming reference, but once I shifted to focusing on the target, my accuracy improved.
 
I shoot instinctively and don't focus on an aiming reference. I have tried gap shooting in the past but, for me personally it tends to take my focus away from executing my shot and I shoot worse. I am sure I could work through that with practice but, I am confident to 20 yds just by looking at/watching the spot I want to hit and then focusing on executing a good shot. So, I just try to get within 20 yds of whatever animal I want to shoot.
^^ what he said.
 
I guess instinctive it is at least to start. That’s how I remember shooting 30 years ago shooting my dads old recurve at milk jugs but I don’t remember being very good at it.


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If your gonna aim then why not shoot a compound with sights Part of the appeal of traditional bows is the fluidity and just the natural feel of throwing an arrow For me it really is like throwing a ball I shoot best when i dont think about anything but what i am trying to hit Just concentrate pull through it and follow through all the way to impact
 
If your gonna aim then why not shoot a compound with sights Part of the appeal of traditional bows is the fluidity and just the natural feel of throwing an arrow For me it really is like throwing a ball I shoot best when i dont think about anything but what i am trying to hit Just concentrate pull through it and follow through all the way to impact
Aiming subconsciously is arguably still aiming. Your aren’t blindly throwing a ball. If you shoot instinct style it’s likely that you have shot hundreds or thousands of arrows and your body is somewhat memorizing trajectory and estimating distance. You are pointing the bow down range, your mind is estimating trajectory, your eyes are focused on the point of impact and you shoot. I say again this is a type of aiming. I bet if you see your shot cycle in your mind you might see the arrow going down your bow (blurry) of course. Do you think your mind ignores this? Does your form not line the arrow under your eye? It would be weird if you lined up with your ear, but still possible I guess. Other methods of aiming help get people into the trad game with results a tad quicker than instinct. It means that a couple months of practice could mean they actually have the confidence to hunt with. Maybe they will stick with it. I started gap and now I shoot split vision which many consider instinct. It’s how Howard Hill shot. Should he have just gone to compound? To answer your second question of why not just go compound. Your question is flawed and assumes there is only one reason to shoot a trad bow. Trad bows are quieter, simpler, usually more visually appealing if you like wood, even with aiming (as you say) take longer than 15 min to shoot bullseyes with, challenging because they are slower and more range limited, lighter in the hand. I could go on for days with the reasons to shoot a trad bow. Many of the worlds ancient peoples have been aiming since the bow came to their respective lands. We are all trad aiming or no. Enjoy the simplicity of stick and string and carry on.
 
Well, I can’t say much that hasn’t already been said. I shoot instinctively, but I’d have to say it’s more of an ingrained thing. Practice, practice, practice…

I know a lot of people might disagree, but it is really like throwing a ball or shooting a basketball. You have to start close and as you get more consistent move back. I like to practice a lot at longer ranges because it helps my mind understand the arc of the arrow. This helps a lot with unknown distances for me. I kind of shoot on the arc, you might say. On longer shots I can visualize the arc and adjust accordingly.

Don’t forget that form and proper arrow tune can’t be ignored. If the form isn’t there nothing will work consistently and you’ll constantly be frustrated. If the arrows aren’t spined right for the bow, grouping will be inconsistent and equally maddening. I hope this helps a little.
 
If your gonna aim then why not shoot a compound with sights Part of the appeal of traditional bows is the fluidity and just the natural feel of throwing an arrow For me it really is like throwing a ball I shoot best when i dont think about anything but what i am trying to hit Just concentrate pull through it and follow through all the way to impact
Bow shaming? Damn wasn't expecting that!
 
Bow shaming? Damn wasn't expecting that!
It’s like asking why you shoot a modern trad bow and not a self bow. No need to divide the trad community further. Already small enough. Maybe I’ll go rock hunting this season. Nothing beats the feel of stone in hand. Back to the OPs topic. Sorry for the interlude.
 
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Aiming subconsciously is arguably still aiming.
I wish I could find a video I watched a long time ago where this theory was tested. It basically was a lighted target (they hung up a chem light) lights were out in the room while shooting at the target and it was too dark to see the bow or arrow tip to use as a reference point to aim. The shots were waaaay off proving even "instinctive shooters" are using the bow, the tip of the arrow, or something as a point of reference to aim.
 
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