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Any trad guys here?

This is my first post to this site even though I have been 'lurking' for quite some time. I shoot trad and compound. Shot trad exclusively for about 20 years but started shooting/hunting with a compound some about 4 years ago - along with hunting trad also. Killed deer out of the tree suit and guidos web several year ago with longbow. Didn't really like either saddle but have ordered a Mantis with platform as this site has rekindled my interest in saddle hunting. I have had many trad bows over the years but now shoot a VPA Vapor riser with trad tech long recurve limbs - really like this bow.

Great buck mtn_goat!
 
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I jumped into the deep end before I felt the water temperature! I ordered a Tethrd Mantis and then started researching over here. I'm currently hunting with a Two Tracks Ogemaw. Osage and walnut with some elk antler tip overlays. I love it! It's a reflex/deflex longbow. 55#'s @ 28". Shooting some carbon arrows out of it with 200 grain single bevel broad heads.

Can't with to strap myself in and practice for the coming fall season.

-Jeremy
 
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Howdy! new guy here but saddlehunter for 20 plus. I make my own homemade T/D recurves and always twitching with saddle accessories and climbing systems. Started with a Green Saddle then Tree Suit then Trophyline and now the last 10 years with a Guido web.. very excited about the 'upgrade Guido coming out" I think the new owner has nailed it. Spent alot of time on TradGang for years promoting saddle style hunting under name JoeBuck....
 
Yep I remember you joebuck from years back. Glad to see you here - had not made the connection.
 
Ok, Yea,
His insoles are the bomb! I've used them for awhile now. I will look into the vest, Thanks!
Continue on Trad Guys !
 
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Howdy! new guy here but saddlehunter for 20 plus. I make my own homemade T/D recurves and always twitching with saddle accessories and climbing systems. Started with a Green Saddle then Tree Suit then Trophyline and now the last 10 years with a Guido web.. very excited about the 'upgrade Guido coming out" I think the new owner has nailed it. Spent alot of time on TradGang for years promoting saddle style hunting under name JoeBuck....
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Nice buck Joe! Welcome to the site!
 
Would anyone be able to offer some insight on bow/arrow/accessories to get someone into the trad game. I have thought about this for years but making the leap has always seemed to daunting. Where do I even begin?
 
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Would anyone be able to offer some insight on bow/arrow/accessories to get someone into the trad game. I have thought about this for years but making the leap has always seemed to daunting. Where do I even begin?
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Start with a very light draw weight. Most new trad shooters are over bowed and that leads to bad habits that are hard to correct. A take down bow will allow you to increase to hunting weight without having to get used to a new handle.
Handle windows that are cut to, or slightly past center are more forgiving to arrow spine and release.
And you should be shooting right hand or left hand according to your master eye. Shooting cross dominance (right hand bow, left eye dominant) is harder to become an accurate instinctive shooter.
Flemish twist strings are preferred. They can be twisted to fine tune the brace height.
There are a lot of other things to consider, but those are a few things to start with.
I'm sure some others will chime in with advice.
Good luck. I love trad. I dumped the wheels in 1992 and I will never go back.

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I would buy a 45 lb used bow in good condition ( pawn shop etc). Then match arrows to that weight. Buy a bag target and get after it in your back yard. There are many YouTube on how to shoot styles but I would start with pure instinctive first at 10 yards to get you comfortable simply drawing and releasing arrow. Meanwhile go to the Traditioanl sites and find a some guys near you in NY. Several traditional clubs I am sure. A new friend with experience can expedite the learning curve. So first order of business is get some equipment!!! Don’t break the bank yet!
 
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I would buy a 45 lb used bow in good condition ( pawn shop etc). Then match arrows to that weight. Buy a bag target and get after it in your back yard. There are many YouTube on how to shoot styles but I would start with pure instinctive first at 10 yards to get you comfortable simply drawing and releasing arrow. Meanwhile go to the Traditioanl sites and find a some guys near you in NY. Several traditional clubs I am sure. A new friend with experience can expedite the learning curve. So first order of business is get some equipment!!! Don’t break the bank yet!
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I’ve been eyeing a Bear Grizzly in 45lbs for several years. Could you recommend options for any accessories I would need to go with it such as arrow specifics, broadheads, quiver, tab/glove?
 
Thats perfect bow to start. I would buy a Damascus glove and some 2217 aluminum arrows, 125 or heavier field point and bag target...thats it!......then get comfortable shooting the bow over next weeks and months. I recommend reading Fred Asbell book Instintive Shooting for a Foundation but not the gospel on style for shooting.
 
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I’ve been eyeing a Bear Grizzly in 45lbs for several years. Could you recommend options for any accessories I would need to go with it such as arrow specifics, broadheads, quiver, tab/glove?
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You can shoot any arrow material out of that bow. Wood, aluminum, carbon...its your choice, just make sure they are spined for the bow. I shot xx75, cedar and ash for years but I've settled in on carbon because they fly the best for me. I like that I can adjust front of center % by adding weight to my inserts.

I shoot a 2 blade, single bevel broadheads and have had very good results with single bevel.
Dr Ed Ashby has done extensive, real world testing of single bevel and I'm a believer.
Go to Alaskabowhuntersupply.com to see videos/read a ton of info from Ashby.

If you plan to shoot off the shelf, you will want to fletch with feathers. Elevated rests can accommodate vanes, but most instinctive shooters like to shoot off the shelf.

I prefer a simple tab. Its just a piece of cordovan leather. It wears like iron and actually gets more slick with use. Its as simple as you can get.

You can shoot split finger or 3 under. They make tabs for 3 under but a split finger tab can be shot 3 under, but a 3 under can't be shot split finger.

I like a bow quiver. Mine is an old Screaming Eagle model that just straps to the handle.
Some guys like to shoot with no attached quiver...they might choose a hip/shoulder style or a bow quiver that is easily removed while on stand. I leave mine on the bow.


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Joebuck said:
Thats perfect bow to start. I would buy a Damascus glove and some 2217 aluminum arrows, 125 or heavier field point and bag target...thats it!......then get comfortable shooting the bow over next weeks and months. I recommend reading Fred Asbell book Instintive Shooting for a Foundation but not the gospel on style for shooting.
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I've read Asbel's book and lots of his articles, too.
There's no doubt that Fred knows his stuff but I don't agree with him on the swing draw for hunting whitetails from a tree stand. His style requires too much movement in the presence of deer. I also like to hang my stand among branches and cover. With a swing draw, there is too much chance of hitting the bow on something during the swing/draw. I point my bow before I even start my draw. That way, I know my limb tips have clearance upon release.

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Thumbs Up Tom !!!! on Alaska Bowhunting Supply plug.......The XXL , SuperGlove and couple other ideas were my "gifts" to Ed. I'm their oldest customer !!

Whatever method you use for drawing and aiming i would incorporate a Pause at anchor.
Otherwise you may develop a " snap shot". Meaning the second your glove touches your face , your release the arrow. This is a terrible condition unless you plan on shooting all your deer at 5 yards!!!! So in short Red Oak when practicing, i suggest getting very close to target 8 yards and practicing drawing the arrow and holding anchor for 2 seconds then releasing for first couple of days. Get use to the weight of bow and comfortable with it.
 
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Howdy! new guy here but saddlehunter for 20 plus. I make my own homemade T/D recurves and always twitching with saddle accessories and climbing systems. Started with a Green Saddle then Tree Suit then Trophyline and now the last 10 years with a Guido web.. very excited about the 'upgrade Guido coming out" I think the new owner has nailed it. Spent alot of time on TradGang for years promoting saddle style hunting under name JoeBuck....
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Joebuck,
Just joined this site as I am going to try saddle hunting for the first time. I am a traditional bowhunter and was wondering how the saddle works (mechanics of the shot, tree set up, height off ground) with a trad bow. Saw your post and the fact you have been doing this for 20+ years, do you have any tips to help with my transition to a saddle with my recurve?
Thanks,
SaddleConvert18
 
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