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So you are wanting a way to use a figure 8 to go up a rope that is already set at height, like with srt?
Not quite, looking for a way to use a figure eight with a friction hitch for ascending with a method like one-sticking or 2TC so that if ever you want to rappel, you can instantly—while also having the figure eight configuration be “tendable” if you want to pull out slack in the rope or pull yourself closer to the tree when on stand.So you are wanting a way to use a figure 8 to go up a rope that is already set at height, like with srt?
Thanks @Brocky. I don’t think I initially understood your two posts as being connected… I thought they were separate ideas. I think that’s the closest I’ve seen so far to what I’m trying to do.The method I showed does exactly what you’re looking for, with a Sticht Hitch tied to the Eight. When not descending the Eight is just a connector. To descend, a bight of the rope is put through the Eight and clipped on the carabiner, press down on hitch to go.
Did you install whipping on the smaller eight for silencing? How’s that tan material applied?This is one way, the stopper knot does the tending, and a method to silence it.
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The setup Brocky has would probably suite you better since the figure 8 is really not easily tendable. I was just using it set at one spot adjusted from the ground. When you get a system you like sorted out let us see it. I might be interested in implementing something like that with 2tc and maybe 25 feet of rappel line.Thanks @Brocky. I don’t think I initially understood your two posts as being connected… I thought they were separate ideas. I think that’s the closest I’ve seen so far to what I’m trying to do.
As far as up and down the tree, you could consider a Distel hitch with a micro pulley. The drawback is, if it doesn't stop you when you want it to or if you need to stop to remove a platform, etc., it may not hold you in place....AND there's no "backup", like there is with a Figure 8. A Figure 8 has a "soft block" and a "hard block" that will hold you in place with no slippage.Maybe it’s not possible. A figure eight is designed for descent, not ascent. So maybe I’m asking a device to accomplish a task for which it wasn’t designed. I’m just probing the possibilities because I know people are using belay devices up and down the tree in ways which the devices weren’t specifically designed for.
Man this method can be really unsafe. I really wish people would stop sharing it. One of our members here got hurt using it himself from a fall.
A Figure 8 has a "soft block" and a "hard block" that will hold you in place with no slippage.
*** This video shows some of the Figure 8 blocking. (Approx. 2:15 to see the Figure 8)
that’s pretty much what I settled on for this past fall, a hitch above an ATC. Has its flaws but it did work and I’ll probably continue to tinker with it.Perhaps an ATC would be better suited for what you're looking to do and it would still be a non-mechanical device, if that's what you're after.