That's so sad that adults would acted like that and after you asked them politely to keep their dogs chain up. I feel bad for you and especially for your children.
NO leash laws in the county. My hunting property is actually in a different place than my home.I wouldn’t be posting about it on the internet but the second time would have been the last time. There is not a farts chance in a hurricane I would ask my neighbor to put up his dogs so I could hunt my property. The dog owner needs to understand the property line one way or the other.
Isn’t there a leash law there?
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Well that sucks. Know any local trappers that you trust? OR a local trapping club? Let them use it and mail certified letters to all properties abutting it letting them know of the use. All the trappers I know are extremely respectful and I"m guessing would work with on on places they setup, and times the check as to not interferre with your hunting...plus theyre good beta for deer info!According to the MDC I have no legal recourse and there are now laws against dogs chasing wildlife.
I don't know, blatantly running a quad back and forth infront of your property line only during the times when you're there sounds a lot like hunter harassment to me which is a class A misdemeanor in MO.According to the MDC I have no legal recourse and there are now laws against dogs chasing wildlife.
That sucks.According to the MDC I have no legal recourse and there are now laws against dogs chasing wildlife.
Man, all these stories really make me happy to live where I am. Asside from pulling a few treesands and putting a posted sign right on the tree where they were, I've had very little issue.That sucks.
Regarding my previous post and “letting law enforcement handle it.” Well...as stated, that doesn’t work here in northern MI. The property I own has been owned by someone in my family since the early 70’s and we’ve all had the same problems. My neighbor to the east is a DNR Officer and he’s dealt with the same things I have. When I bought the property 10yrs ago, I went next door during rifle season when he had seven of his DNR buddies hunting and not one of them would do a damn thing about our shared neighbors to the south who have always been a problem.
A couple years before finally snapping I reported the neighbor kid for trespassing and illegally setting fur traps in my creek. The DNR told me I needed video evidence of him on my property and that unless I had a serviceable fence all the way around my property with Posted signs that there was nothing they could do. Apparently if you don’t have a fence or posted sign and it must be both, then it’s not considered “Trespassing”.
I’ve tried the “Hunter Harrassment” route with the neighbor as well and the DNR refused to look into it. Needless to say, I’m not a huge fan of the MI DNR! And my DNR neighbor just happens to be my Uncles brother.
Hopefully you have more luck with your local conservation officers.
I was about to post and express my opinion, but this pretty much captured it. You could try non lethal means to make the dogs not want to come on your property, perhaps skunk spray. As an absentee landowner myself, you really don't want to make an enemy of a neighbor that lives there.Sounds like an awful situation--I really hate that for you, man. I definitely don't think you should have to ask him to chain up his dogs before you hunt, and I wouldn't stand for that at all. If he can't keep his dogs on his property, he needs to build a fence or keep them chained up all the time.
I might be in the minority here, but I don't see killing those dogs as the right way to go about this. First, it's not really the dogs' fault they have a crappy owner, so it feels like lashing out at them is just "guilty by association" (unless they're aggressive toward y'all or something like that), and that's not reason enough for me to kill a dog. Second, you can run afoul of the law, which creates big problems for you. Third, the neighbor can always get another dog. And fourth, if you think you have an enemy now, just wait until he finds out you killed his dog...
As I've said in other threads before, I always advise against making an enemy out of a neighbor, especially one who lives close to a property you don't live on, because they can cause way bigger problems for you than just ruining a hunt. I'd hate to feel unsafe on my own property worrying about some crazy, pissed-off, armed neighbor lying in wait for me as I walked out of the woods after dark...
Some people are just A-holes, and the only way they're going to stop screwing with you is if you force them to stop. I like the law enforcement route, and you can really set this guy up to get busted by using cameras and actively involving your local wildlife officers. As a first step, though, I think walking over and talking to the guy face-to-face and explaining (calmly) how he ruined your kid's hunt is the way to go. If he apologizes and seems to take it to heart, great, problem solved without all the drama and fireworks. If he responds poorly, you can lay out your plan to involve law enforcement to protect your property rights.
Good luck!
I have actually considered selling.I was about to post and express my opinion, but this pretty much captured it. You could try non lethal means to make the dogs not want to come on your property, perhaps skunk spray. As an absentee landowner myself, you really don't want to make an enemy of a neighbor that lives there.
I would be more concerned about the other neighbors from the sound of it. Armed trespassers looking to steal is about as bad as it gets.
It's not fair by any means, but have you considered selling the place? I know it's wrong on principle, but it doesn't sound like you can enjoy the place anyway.
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I have actually considered selling.
Hate to hear it, but it's what I'd probably do in your shoes. Even if you get the dog situation addressed, the other neighbors sound like a nightmare.I have actually considered selling.
1:Find toilet bowl cleaner with ingredient hydrochloric acidForget the POSTED signs. Throw a couple of these babies up...
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Then all you gotta do is set off a couple of random loud explosions every once in a while and leave harvested deer parts scattered near the property line... Boom, problem solved. (Pun intended)
1:Find toilet bowl cleaner with ingredient hydrochloric acid
2:find empty 20oz screw top plastic bottle
3: fill bottle with toilet bowl cleaner enough to cover the bottom and come up about an inch
4: roll aluminium foil into little balls...15-20 of them
5: drop aluminum foil balls into bottle and screw cap tight
6:shake it up
7:loud boom
Just don't breath the fumes that come outta the bittle