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Bad Penetration.....Again

You'll go back to fixed blades until you realize why you went to mechanicals in the first place.
I said the same thing after what I thought might have been a mechanical failure. I dug out some brand new muzzy's I had stashed and shot 3 times in the backyard and said "well that settles that". I put the mechanicals back on.
Even with orings, fixed blades are just not as accurate for me and throw off my confidence.
Nap Spitfires are tried and true.

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Let me be blunt. FMJ's are junk. No debate, Trash. Here is why. The bonded core can't withstand hard impacts without shearing from each other. Also if it does withstand the hit. Most likely it will NOT remain straight because the aluminum will retain the bend, were a solid carbon arrow will return straight.
Now back to penetration, be sure the bow is tuned and arrow is flying straight (1), be sure you've got a good reliable broadhead, not some flipper flapper broadhead either, preferably a cut on contact like a magnus stinger or like that (2) and most of all, be sure your not slinging a straw with a feather on it. Get some weight in front of that bow string, 500 grain or more. Get the front of the arrow loaded up with 16 or more % foc. This will give great flight and help tremendously with penetration. Have a blessed day, And enjoy what God has given to us to enjoy, the great outdoors
 
bakin7005 said:
You'll go back to fixed blades until you realize why you went to mechanicals in the first place.
I said the same thing after what I thought might have been a mechanical failure. I dug out some brand new muzzy's I had stashed and shot 3 times in the backyard and said "well that settles that". I put the mechanicals back on.
Even with orings, fixed blades are just not as accurate for me and throw off my confidence.
Nap Spitfires are tried and true.

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Sounds like you need to tune your bow......

 
The broad head on the right looks like the tip bent pretty good.

I started shooting heavier Fixed heads 150 grains vs 100
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bakin7005 said:
You'll go back to fixed blades until you realize why you went to mechanicals in the first place.
I said the same thing after what I thought might have been a mechanical failure. I dug out some brand new muzzy's I had stashed and shot 3 times in the backyard and said "well that settles that". I put the mechanicals back on.
Even with orings, fixed blades are just not as accurate for me and throw off my confidence.
Nap Spitfires are tried and true.

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For me the reason I went to mechanicals was that my eyes don't follow the light blood trails the small diameter NAP Nitrons were giving me. But I killed a ton of deer with them. I've gotten way worse performance and trickier blood trails this year with the mechanicals. So their not doing what I needed them to do.
 
I only shoot 25 yds. max. I'll be adding extra weight and not shooting mechanicals next year.
 
Are those deep six FMJ’s or standard? I shot deep six for a few seasons, mainly paired with slick trick broadheads. Probably shot 30-40 deer, hogs and turkeys and never had a single shaft crack.

Even with the large mechanical I just can’t imagine several shafts splitting at the insert like that. Have you contacted Easton? I’d start with your local dealer and go from there.

I only use rage on turkeys for the most part but wouldn’t expect those heads to get destroyed on a doe. Rage did change their blade retention system and from what I’ve observed it does take significantly more energy to open than it did with the older O-ring system. I like the new system better but like I said, I only use them on turkeys.

Sorry if I missed it but what’s your total arrow weight? Are they properly spined?

It’s been mentioned but your bow can be WAY out of tune and still accurately stack arrows into a target. I’d guess your bow isn’t properly tuned but could be wrong. It’s just rare to see that consistency of poor terminal performance.

Keep us updated, good luck!


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Weldabeast said:
Sounds like you need to tune your bow......

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I find that with my perfectly tuned bow any little variation in my grip or form - which is the norm from a saddle - is still always there, waiting to send my fixed planing. I literally shot hundreds and hundreds of arrows through paper in the past year, decided for whitetail spitfires was still my best route.
 
weekender21 said:
Are those deep six FMJ’s or standard? I shot deep six for a few seasons, mainly paired with slick trick broadheads. Probably shot 30-40 deer, hogs and turkeys and never had a single shaft crack.

Even with the large mechanical I just can’t imagine several shafts splitting at the insert like that. Have you contacted Easton? I’d start with your local dealer and go from there.

I only use rage on turkeys for the most part but wouldn’t expect those heads to get destroyed on a doe. Rage did change their blade retention system and from what I’ve observed it does take significantly more energy to open than it did with the older O-ring system. I like the new system better but like I said, I only use them on turkeys.

Sorry if I missed it but what’s your total arrow weight? Are they properly spined?

It’s been mentioned but your bow can be WAY out of tune and still accurately stack arrows into a target. I’d guess your bow isn’t properly tuned but could be wrong. It’s just rare to see that consistency of poor terminal performance.

Keep us updated, good luck!


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They use the HIT insert. they're 340s and weigh in the 445-450 range. I hadn't shot it through paper in a while. The arrows come of clean and they hit the target straight. I shoot often and don't see any erratic arrow flight or feel any increase in vibration or hand shock. I'd be surprised if it's out of tune. I have work today but I'll set up to shoot through paper and I'll know by mid afternoon how that looks. As for spine they fall in with the 340s off the easton chart. It's not like I just pulled these arrows out of the basement and started hunting with them. I've been shooting them for a while, probably 7 years. Shot Maxima Red from CE before them. I'll also take it to the shop and have them take a look. I want to show them the arrows anyway.
 
bakin7005 said:
You'll go back to fixed blades until you realize why you went to mechanicals in the first place.
I said the same thing after what I thought might have been a mechanical failure. I dug out some brand new muzzy's I had stashed and shot 3 times in the backyard and said "well that settles that". I put the mechanicals back on.
Even with orings, fixed blades are just not as accurate for me and throw off my confidence.
Nap Spitfires are tried and true.

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Sounds like a bow out of tune. Don't blame fixed blades, blame bow tune.
 
Not to throw stones here but I would loose the mechanicals, period. Watch the Ranch Fairy Vids. Some Good Stuff There. Go To a Heavier Fixed Blade to Get Some More FOC. You Cannot Control What the Critter Does After You Release an Arrow but you Can Shoot Something that Will Penetrate Anyway.
 
Check out Day six arrows when you get a chance. They are a thick walled skinney carbon shaft with tough inserts/outserts. I really like mine and they shoot well.
 
A mechanical will hide an untuned bow pretty well and that’s why lots of people like them because they think their bow is tuned. Throw a fixed blad on there and you’ll see what how well the bow is tuned. I’ll admit it was frustrating to say the least when I went back to a fixed blade because I realized tuning is more involved than just shooting through a peice of paper. I don’t even paper tune anymore start with bareshaft and than walk back tune.
 
Bad heads and maybe some bad arrow flight would be my guess. I have seen enough mechanical head failures where a fixed blade would have killed the animal to keep me from ever trying them. When they work it’s unreal but when they don’t it’s awful.

The ones who don’t shoot fixed blades because, “they aren’t accurate” have an untuned bow or bad form and most likely both. If you’re going to shoot fixed try to up your FOC to help steer that arrow.
 
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