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Bowmar’s Sentenced for Wildlife Violations

Nutterbuster said:
I can't stand em, but...

Their guide got hit with prison time and a much bigger fine. Looks like it was part of a much larger scale bust. They got off on a plea deal, most likely because they testified against the guide would be my guess.

I know from the little bit of hunting out of state I've done, laws can be tricky. And guides can be...reassuring...about any qualms you have about how things are done.

I'd be curious to see the whole story. Looks like they're being used as an attention-grabber for the article.

Still can't stand em.
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One thing I will say, you don’t get that jacked, or your teeth that snow white, or relatively successful in the outdoor space, without working your butt off. I do respect hard work, and they’re choosing to target a mass demographic, so do we hate the player or the game? And the guy has posted quite a bit of decent archery advice over the years (other than lobbing at animals 100 yards away). And yeah, I think there’s a decent chance they were a little naive about the lawbreaking, moreso than conspirators.
 
neonomad said:
One thing I will say, you don’t get that jacked, or your teeth that snow white, or relatively successful in the outdoor space, without working your butt off. I do respect hard work, and they’re choosing to target a mass demographic, so do we hate the player or the game? And the guy has posted quite a bit of decent archery advice over the years (other than lobbing at animals 100 yards away). And yeah, I think there’s a decent chance they were a little naive about the lawbreaking, moreso than conspirators.
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:unamused::rolleyes:
 
Blacksmith said:
That's Sad... I really Like Their Nose Button On All My Bows...Someone Else Make One!!
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Just use serving, d-loop material, braided fishing line, heck any string material will work really. Been doing it for many years and guys have been doing it long before me. The "nose button" or snotter as it used to be called has been around as long if not longer than the kisser button. Even kissers were being made out of string material before they were being mass produced. Kind of how all saddle/stick designs were DIY before someone grabbed it and ran. So we're kisser and nose buttons.
 
Here is my "nose button" on my hunting bow, may not look as cool and it definitely ain't pretty, but works like a charm.

A guy on archery talk cuts off little pieces of the ink tube on a bick pen, puts tiny slices in them and then flares them out, to get the spikey effect and then serves them in place if you want that spikey feel.
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neonomad said:
One thing I will say, you don’t get that jacked, or your teeth that snow white, or relatively successful in the outdoor space, without working your butt off. I do respect hard work, and they’re choosing to target a mass demographic, so do we hate the player or the game? And the guy has posted quite a bit of decent archery advice over the years (other than lobbing at animals 100 yards away). And yeah, I think there’s a decent chance they were a little naive about the lawbreaking, moreso than conspirators.
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It's hard to say what I'm about to say without being labeled a "jealous hater" but I've been called worse.

Money buys teeth whitener and braces. Money buys 'roids, which I'll take 10-1 odds on he's using. Dude is huge and lean...and you usually can't have both naturally and have time to do other things and be over 30. Money also gives you freedom from the 9-5 grind and time/energy/safety to dump tike into risky startups.

Show me mom and dad's finances. It's been my observation that, despite the cultural myths we espouse, the biggest factor behind a successful person is successful parents. Dude supposedly had a 4.0 gpa and was a college athlete superstar and started his first "business" fresh outta school.

I tutored kids like that when I was in college. I liked most of them. But they didn't work any harder than the average kid. Their work had the advantage of leverage.

I don't begrudge people success. I do have a problem with the idea of "the grind" being behind the successful of lucky folks.
 
There is a link on that page to look at the plea deal. Never heard of them but you do not want to violate the lacy act.

Misdemeanor offense per the criminal complaint. Occurred from September 10, 2015 to November 6, 2017.

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Josh & Sarah Bowmar Plead Guilty to Conspiracy in Nebraska Poaching Case

After a years-long stagnation in the infamous case, Josh and Sarah Bowmar have pled guilty to conspiring to violate the Lacey Act.
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“They stated in court on behalf of themselves and their company, “I conspired to violate the Lacey Act and I should have known better.”” That’s a direct quote, so I’m not buying that they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe not the ring leaders, but by their own admission willing participants.
 
I didn’t read the sentencing part. Don’t care really. But they’re getting all of their mounts back. They pled to a misdemeanor for transporting the deer across state lines. Some of which might have been taken “in violation of Nebraska game laws.” Good for them for beating the felony and getting their property back. It’ll be a footnote soon enough.
 
2Sloe said:
“They stated in court on behalf of themselves and their company, “I conspired to violate the Lacey Act and I should have known better.”” That’s a direct quote, so I’m not buying that they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe not the ring leaders, but by their own admission willing participants.
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They got charged with a felony… for deer…. You’d say that too.
 
I’m sure they did something shady. It probably wasn’t worth a felony. The feds over charged them to get them to testify against someone else. And they got a decent plea out of it apparently.
 
will4554 said:
They got charged with a felony… for deer…. You’d say that too.
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't have put myself in that situation to begin with.

If I was scammed by a guide I would have stood by that defense and taken my chance in court. That admission to me means they at least knew they were doing something that they shouldn't have been. That makes them at least complicant.
 
At one point I tried the smallest kisser button that pine ridge offers as a nose button (cost was 3.99 as I put it back in packing) just for kicks but went back to serving/string material as I still didn't really feel I gained any benefit as I still had to serve it on and under. Maybe I will revisit that or try the bowmar just to see if I am missing out on something, but I highly doubt it
 
will4554 said:
They got charged with a felony… for deer…. You’d say that too.
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I think it’s called the law. You don’t like the law then work to change it. But until you do, I’d recommend that you follow it or suffer the consequences. They did plead guilty. And no, I won’t be congratulating guilty poachers for beating anything, but that’s just me.
 
neonomad said:
One thing I will say, you don’t get that jacked, or your teeth that snow white, or relatively successful in the outdoor space, without working your butt off. I do respect hard work, and they’re choosing to target a mass demographic, so do we hate the player or the game? And the guy has posted quite a bit of decent archery advice over the years (other than lobbing at animals 100 yards away). And yeah, I think there’s a decent chance they were a little naive about the lawbreaking, moreso than conspirators.
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Plenty work hard and don’t act like donkeys. I don’t know much of them, but I say change the game if it’s a pile of horse manure. That’s what I respect.

If they were caught in a celebrity trap, that’s a bit unfair. But when the shoe fits, ’tis the game.
 
jsh909 said:
Here is my "nose button" on my hunting bow, may not look as cool and it definitely ain't pretty, but works like a charm.

A guy on archery talk cuts off little pieces of the ink tube on a bick pen, puts tiny slices in them and then flares them out, to get the spikey effect and then serves them in place if you want that spikey feel.
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What’s the effect on FPS?
 
Nutterbuster said:
It's hard to say what I'm about to say without being labeled a "jealous hater" but I've been called worse.

Money buys teeth whitener and braces. Money buys 'roids, which I'll take 10-1 odds on he's using. Dude is huge and lean...and you usually can't have both naturally and have time to do other things and be over 30. Money also gives you freedom from the 9-5 grind and time/energy/safety to dump tike into risky startups.

Show me mom and dad's finances. It's been my observation that, despite the cultural myths we espouse, the biggest factor behind a successful person is successful parents. Dude supposedly had a 4.0 gpa and was a college athlete superstar and started his first "business" fresh outta school.

I tutored kids like that when I was in college. I liked most of them. But they didn't work any harder than the average kid. Their work had the advantage of leverage.

I don't begrudge people success. I do have a problem with the idea of "the grind" being behind the successful of lucky folks.
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Jealous hater, lol
 
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