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Broadhead tuning Observation

i did some more shooting and messing around I put the rest back to original spot where I was getting great flight with paper tuning. I adjusted the sight to where broad heads are hitting dead center. I shot 3 different broad heads out to 40 yards and all 3 broad heads are hitting the mark. So I’m happy with that. It’s a hunting bow so if broad heads are hitting the mark I’m happy. Are all broad heads do the killing not FP.
 
I would go on Archery Talk, message Nuts&Bolts, explain your problems, then do what he tells you. Alan Liu is an incredible archery teacher and your bow is obviously out of tune.
 
A properly tuned bow will shoot any, and I mean any, broadhead you shoot. You will need a bare shaft in order to do help Alan diagnose your issues. A bare shaft never lies...
 
Duramaxlbz said:
i did some more shooting and messing around I put the rest back to original spot where I was getting great flight with paper tuning. I adjusted the sight to where broad heads are hitting dead center. I shot 3 different broad heads out to 40 yards and all 3 broad heads are hitting the mark. So I’m happy with that. It’s a hunting bow so if broad heads are hitting the mark I’m happy. Are all broad heads do the killing not FP.
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Just wondering how are the broadheads shooting at 20 yards compared to 40 yards. If they are both hitting center and not left or right then your should be good. Like @DennisGL285 stated AT Nuts&Bolts is a great resource. What you did will work but my concern is you will be left or right (should be right) when you move closer. If not then shoot away. The season is coming up so if you have confidence that your hitting behind your pin that is all you need but I would get it looked at after the season. Remember a properly tuned bow is more forgiving also so if you have an off tilter shot and cant the bow a little your arrow will fly truer then a bow that is out of tune. Like stated before the key right now is confidence. The last thing you need is drought when you are drawing back.
 
I’m happy with my broad head flight at 40 yards I have 3 different broad heads flying true I’m hitting in a softball at 40 with broad heads. Broad heads are what I hunt with not FP’s
 
Duramaxlbz said:
I’m happy with my broad head flight at 40 yards I have 3 different broad heads flying true I’m hitting in a softball at 40 with broad heads. Broad heads are what I hunt with not FP’s
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You can group arrows with a bow that is out of tune. The big question is how is it shooting at 20? If you are still hitting center and not left or right then your good. You don't only kill at 40 so you need to shoot at 20 and see how they are flying.

Just trying to help you out. There are a lot of people that get sighted in and then only shoot from long range I don't want you to head to the woods not have shot at 20 yards and then you hit front shoulder or gut shot because they are off.
 
Gamover06 said:
You can group arrows with a bow that is out of tune. The big question is how is it shooting at 20? If you are still hitting center and not left or right then your good. You don't only kill at 40 so you need to shoot at 20 and see how they are flying.

Just trying to help you out. There are a lot of people that get sighted in and then only shoot from long range I don't want you to head to the woods not have shot at 20 yards and then you hit front shoulder or gut shot because they are off.
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No I appreciate the help from 15 to 40 yards my broadheads are hitting the mark. I haven’t tried shooting any farther than 40 yards but I will be just for the practice.
 
Yes that might be true, but I have a horror story for you....
I was in your same position 4 years ago. My arrows with broad heads are hitting "fine" somewhat of a group out to 40 yards.
In comes a P & Y 8pt at 22 yards in a slight breeze. I'd say 10-12mph.
Arrow corkscrews high in the meat above the spine.
Then tears corkscrew down my cheeks.
If you want to get your accuracy to the absolute max and not have to live what most of us have gone through e.g. watching a good buck you waited all season for walk away with a flesh wound or worse, then reconsider your methods of tuning. I'm just speaking from experience.
 
DennisGL285 said:
Yes that might be true, but I have a horror story for you....
I was in your same position 4 years ago. My arrows with broad heads are hitting "fine" somewhat of a group out to 40 yards.
In comes a P & Y 8pt at 22 yards in a slight breeze. I'd say 10-12mph.
Arrow corkscrews high in the meat above the spine.
Then tears corkscrew down my cheeks.
If you want to get your accuracy to the absolute max and not have to live what most of us have gone through e.g. watching a good buck you waited all season for walk away with a flesh wound or worse, then reconsider your methods of tuning. I'm just speaking from experience.
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I’m hitting a softball sized group at 40 yards and better than that at 20 yards. I have paper tuned the bow, index the nocks, cam timing is correct, axel to axel and riser in spec I’m not sure how much more tuning I can do.
 
Like others have suggested ,shoot some bare shafts out of it. I get moving sights to use it and saying it’s only a hunting bow but fact is if Fp and Broadhead aren’t hitting the same POI the bow isn’t completely tuned. Not trying to be ugly but it’s simple.
 
That is a step in the right direction. Do not be intimidated by the process. You wont regret doing it. If you need help or suggestions send a message.
 
DennisGL285 said:
That is a step in the right direction. Do not be intimidated by the process. You wont regret doing it. If you need help or suggestions send a message.
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I just squared, cold carbon epoxied and spun on the arrow spinner, 6 Grizzly Stix TDT 240. So in 72 hours from now I will be bare shafting. Lol
 
Duramaxlbz said:
I’m in the process of broadhead tuning with 2 new heads I’m trying Iron will S125 and the black mag SER 125. I’m shooting a brand new bow and arrows so I have spent the last few months dialing that in and I have FP flying perfect. I’m shooting the Vertix 75lbs 28.5 draw and 85% with VAP RIP TKO 300 spine with the fire nock system. I started shooting 1 BH and 1 FP at 20yards. The FP hitting dead center and both brand broad heads hitting about 6-8 inches left. So I moved the rest about a 1/16 to the left to see if that help. And i know so people say follow the arrow and other say opposite. Shot my next round of arrows the iron will BH where hitting closer to center and grouping decent with the FP’s. The black mangus BH where hitting even farther left like 12in left now. Anyone else experience this? I only shot at 20yards bc I ran out of time to shoot. Hoping to get some more shooting in today. Is there anything else I could do to improve my BH flight??
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When moving the rest move it in the direction you want to move your group. Sights follow the arrow. The best way to tune broadheads I’ve found is the walk back method. Put a vertical line on the target. Shoot at 10 yards and adjust the sights to center of the line. Step back to 40-50 and shoot. Adjust your rest until you are grouping center. Now back to 10, adjust sights. Back to 40. Repeat until perfect. Make sure to shoot multiple arrows to be certain of groups. After doing this your broadheads should fly with field points.
 
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