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buddy is new to hunting and annoying the heck out of me.....

"Never argue with idiots. They'll bring you
down to their level and beat you with experience."

Hunt with him, drink a beer with him, do whatever with him. When he gets stupid, just nod your head and say, "you're right." Let him do whatever cockamamie thing he wants to do, and go do your own thing.

I have friends who I know if I go to help them, it's gonna be a cluster duck. If you know it ahead of time it's funny instead of frustrating.

I camped last year with a group of guys who not only filled their canoes to the gunwhales with gear, they filled MY 17' Grumman with gear. I solo paffled probably 400lbs of yeti coolers, cot tents, and deep cycle batteries with my overnight bag under my seat.

I drank too much and laughed my ass off watching them try to cook dinner on 3 stoves they'd never used. One was still in the packaging.
 
Sounds like he's gained a lot of mis-interpreted knowledge without paying the sweat equity to earn it. I'm with the others on this thread, let him do what he wants on his private parcels while you do your thing on public. That'll give him the space he needs to fall flat on his face (figuratively) and allow you to be successful on public in stark contrast. Economy of sanity my friend.
 
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The more I think about this the more I relate to it. I went through a similar transition with my best friend and now hunting partner. At one time I could care less if anyone was with me and actually prefered to be alone. The most part of my hunting season I still hunt solo but I am finding that I have come full circle and actually enjoy having a friend in the woods with me. The transition was tough and it still is at times but learning what the other person likes does make it more enjoyable.
ex. I want my buddy to kill a deer so stinking bad I put him in a loc-on in my best spots and he hates it. He doesn't like that he is being put in a spot and has no knowledge of how the deer travel. So what I did last year, after I killed from that spot I gave him free rein to go scout it and set himself up in a tree. He ended up in a tree not more than 30 yards from mine with his climber. He made one hunt before the end of the season and got to draw back on a deer, however, no shot opportunity came to fruition. When we met up after the hunt he said that was the best hunt he's made in a long time. He was happy, and if he's happy then I am too. I've killed plenty of deer and have a wall full of mounts but that moment made me just as happy as if I shot a deer myself. It was at that moment I changed what I value in life. I'd rather have a best bud than a dead head on the wall. Next time we hunt that area if he wants that spot he can have it, I'll never let a spot get between and a buddy.

I understand your situation is different but in time you'll change too and the both of you will be killing deer. And in few years you'll be jabbing him on why he made you put that stand in that terrible tree. Plus its always nice to have someone else when it comes to dragging a deer out.
 
We have a word for people like that, ask-holes. They want to learn something new, ask for help / guidance from someone with experience, then do contrary to what is recommended because “they know better”.

When this happens to me, I tell them they are being an ask-hole and give them the definition of an ask-hole. Tell them that they already have my recommendation (and the reasons for my recommendation) and are free to do what they want. I tell them, “In Theory There Is No Difference Between Theory and Practice, While In Practice There Is” and to remember this conversation.

Most will come around after an incident or two. Especially after the reminder of the conversation. If someone doesn’t get it after so many times, well, they get jettisoned.
 
I have maybe 7-10 friends that I hunt with / share permissions / share texts / assist thoughtout the season, and there is only two of those that don’t annoy me at some point. And only one of those two who I really think “gets it” in terms of tactics, on the same page. 2012-14 I was pursuing hard one of the best bucks we’ve ever had on our farm, late November 2014 I passed him at 35 yards, didn’t feel like a shot I wanted to take. A week or so later gun season I did a slow drive for two friends, that buck stands up in front of me (hes beautiful, been in my head for 3 years) and heads their way. One of those guys put a bad shot on him at 25 yards not moving, broadside, and we never found him. His gun was off. Lesson learned. Just venting! Right now strategizing the upcoming rut, how I’m gonna interact w, work around these guys, etc. How does a rock band ever stay together. If you run in a pack of friendly capable killers, consider yourself lucky!
 
Update.

I pick my boy up at 3... he ready to go throws his **** in my car... we get to the public were getting ready I ask if he had a bag... he says hes just gonna carry his excalabur case to the tree... it's the size of a guitar case... we have a good laugh then he says he hates his quiver and only has one bolt I laugh again so we get to the tree were setting up the lone wolf I ask him to get the tree strap he reached into the side of his case and slices his hand open on his bolt...... we have a good laugh it's not bad and I tell him quivers serve a purpose..... he so leaves his headlamp at home.

I abandoned my original plan to go about 500 yards away and go about 150 away and bump some does in the process....


Wish us luck.. lol.


Hes just gonna have to learn everything the hard way and that's ok I guess we will have some laughs in a few years about this

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Jimmy Wallhanger said:
Update.

I pick my boy up at 3... he ready to go throws his **** in my car... we get to the public were getting ready I ask if he had a bag... he says hes just gonna carry his excalabur case to the tree... it's the size of a guitar case... we have a good laugh then he says he hates his quiver and only has one bolt I laugh again so we get to the tree were setting up the lone wolf I ask him to get the tree strap he reached into the side of his case and slices his hand open on his bolt...... we have a good laugh it's not bad and I tell him quivers serve a purpose..... he so leaves his headlamp at home.

I abandoned my original plan to go about 500 yards away and go about 150 away and bump some does in the process....


Wish us luck.. lol.


Hes just gonna have to learn everything the hard way and that's ok I guess we will have some laughs in a few years about this

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Just make sure he never learns about saddlehunter.com that way you can vent your frustrations for the rest of time and he'll never know.
 
He took a massive header on the way out... poor guy forgot his headlamp.... headed back out in the morning

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I went through kind of the same thing a few years ago. So I just let him do his thing and we would hunt different areas of the game lands and just meet up before, after, and if one of us got a kill. Well he got tired of helping me drag my deer and eventually started adopting better hunting habits and we are mostly on the same page now. Funny thing is, we used to hate each other and hunting is what started our friendship.
 
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