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Camera’s Stolen & Airtags

Silvio

Silvio

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Well some people feel the need to steal someone else’s property and cell cameras are at the top of the list for most deer hunters. I had two Reveal cameras stolen recently - so I bought two new ones too replace them and desired to put them in the same location…but this time with a twist. I put air tags behind the computer boards on all my cameras in this location. Wouldn’t you know it - my thief came back and took another camera but this time it had a AirTag inside…I was at work at the time and I got to watch it travel down the road several miles away. Ok here’s what I found out…it’s not legal to trace a cell camera by law but it is legal to trace a AirTag…”I thought to myself are you kidding me” I called the police after pulling up in this persons driveway once I had the cameras location. I went to the corner and waited for the police to make a report which I did, but they informed me I had to make a report in the township where it was stolen in so they could investigate it. So here’s where it gets interesting…I went to the police station in that township the following morning and showed the police officers the AirTags location and pictures of the individual with the camera and his vehicle since the Smart Thief left the camera on and it’s still on showing me pictures of the inside of his truck and garage LOL. The police made a visit and talk to the person but he denied stealing the camera but the AirTag shows it’s in his garage…the police officers contacted me and said there’s nothing they can do…let’s just say our conversation went south at that point…guys there’s all kind of ways perpetrators receive protection from the law while victims remain on the receiving end with no justice…it’s the world we live in today…the moral of the story is believe every criminal when they deny their crimes…as long as he says he didn’t do it - he must be telling the truth8484E279-DD94-4CEF-AEC7-ECD032796F92.jpeg8484E279-DD94-4CEF-AEC7-ECD032796F92.jpeg
 
Tr33_n1nj@ said:
I’d get about 6 friends and go knock on his door about 3 am. Every night. Just to say hello.
Another option since you know who it is, is to sue in small claims court.
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Well I would end up getting in trouble I’m sure…I told the police officer he had a liberal opinion LOL
 
The air tag laws are stupid. A contractor I work with had some nice cordless tools stolen and those came with built in trackers. He saw which street in Syracuse they migrated too from his job site more than 1.5 hrs away. The cops said they can't do anything about it.
Bizarre.
 
In some places you technically aren’t supposed to leave anything on public land though so I guess we do need to clarify, your cameras were definitely stolen, and not abandoned on public land right? I mean legally does this person have an argument that they were just picking up litter in the woods?
 
Apple put out a legal notice that the gps in their products are not to be used for law enforcement. Apple will not back the use and how officers find stolen items. Now, even though the officers on scene are limited to what they can and cannot do, it should still be investigated and with a possible better outcome. Good luck!
 
Any way you can brick it remotely? I’d set up a cheap dummy camera and have another higher up in a different tree filming him.
 
That’s not being protected by law that’s lazy law enforcement. That’s a officer not wanting to do their job or not knowing how to do their job. I’d talk to someone else, maybe an investigator or a department head. I’d push it until they listened, they work for you. There is always the civil course too. Have them served and take them to civil court. That is if it’s worth it to you to push the issue. Just my two cents as a former LEO. I would have loved to have gotten a case like yours!
 
Many moons ago I had a problem with stolen traps. I hiked in very early from another location and waited with binoculars and watched him load up two #2 traps with my tags on them on private property that I was the sole person with permission to be there. I left and let him have my traps. I heard later he had a problem with four tires and rims that looked like 12ga. deer slugs had accidentally penetrated. I never saw him on this property again so counted the 5 traps as entertainment expense.
 
Tr33_n1nj@ said:
In some places you technically aren’t supposed to leave anything on public land though so I guess we do need to clarify, your cameras were definitely stolen, and not abandoned on public land right? I mean legally does this person have an argument that they were just picking up litter in the woods?
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TR33…the issue is stolen whether on public or private…I see many tree stands and cameras on public land and never think of stealing them….the fact is we no longer have prudent laws that work for us…I don’t have a good opinion for law enforcement any longer and at the age of 65 I’ve seen and heard it all…I’m going to knock on his door and of course I’m going to be cordial, but I’m going to leave him a strong message face to face
 
Camelcluch said:
Apple put out a legal notice that the gps in their products are not to be used for law enforcement. Apple will not back the use and how officers find stolen items. Now, even though the officers on scene are limited to what they can and cannot do, it should still be investigated and with a possible better outcome. Good luck!
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But, if he put air tags in his cameras to help himself not to lose them in the dense woods, and had no motivation to catch thieves in doing so it’s not violating the air tag use. He just happened to be looking for his camera and noticed they weren’t where they were supposed to be.
 
Yep until a police report is filed. The question will be how did the officers find the camera/air tag? It makes no sense. Apple is NOT law enforcement friendly. The officers and department could be subject to law suit for violating the order. Dumb.
 
Silvio said:
TR33…the issue is stolen whether on public or private…I see many tree stands and cameras on public land and never think of stealing them….the fact is we no longer have prudent laws that work for us…I don’t have a good opinion for law enforcement any longer and at the age of 65 I’ve seen and heard it all…I’m going to knock on his door and of course I’m going to be cordial, but I’m going to leave him a strong message face to face
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It is super frustrating for the officers too. However, your judges, DA and government control most of what police do. We vote for all these people and then are unhappy with what we get. It’s a huge mess that hurt most people instead of helping the people that need it.
 
My Grandson gave up his career in Law Enforcement last year and went to banking for multiple reasons but one of the primary reasons is our government is no longer behind officers. The criminals have most of the support these days, sadly. There will be a breaking point and it will not be a good time to be on the wrong side of the Golden Rule. Just my opinion, not a threat, more of a prophecy.;)
 
Camelcluch said:
It is super frustrating for the officers too. However, your judges, DA and government control most of what police do. We vote for all these people and then are unhappy with what we get. It’s a huge mess that hurt most people instead of helping the people that need it.
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Biggest issue here is county prosecutors won’t prosecute game related charges. We had a local that was indicted in several states and Canada and walked every time a case came up in our county. LEO’s worked their butts off making a case just to have it ignored because it was game related. They finally busted the guy on a felon in possession of a firearm law, after he was convicted in another state.. the prosecutor couldn’t ignore that one.
 
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