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Cva wolf Muzzleloader

Robert loper

Robert loper

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I own a CVA wolf muzzleloader and I love the gun.
I will be using 250 grain Hornady sst bullets and 2/50grain triple 7 powder pellets. Bushnell 3-9-40 dusk til dawn scope
I have shot a few deer with this gun with a heavier load but i want to go lighter bullet.
the only thing that is a pain in the rear end is my 209 primers getting stuck after firing.
Is this common? or could this be something with the breech plug or even the kind of 209 primers im using?
thnks anyone in advance
 
It’s the fouling of the primer & then the crush of the pin crimping it in place. A couple things you can try:
If you have calipers measure the width & height of all the primers & try shooting the smaller ones you have.
You can carry a small primer puller, looks like a little flat bar ( muzzleloader.com)
Go full nuclear & switch ignition to small rifle primers
By a spare breech plug & have a shop tool it up with a little looser pocket… careful if you have fouling blow by you may introduce new stuck primer problems.

if it’s me I’m going with 2nd option
 
Bigterp said:
It’s the fouling of the primer & then the crush of the pin crimping it in place. A couple things you can try:
If you have calipers measure the width & height of all the primers & try shooting the smaller ones you have.
You can carry a small primer puller, looks like a little flat bar ( muzzleloader.com)
Go full nuclear & switch ignition to small rifle primers
By a spare breech plug & have a shop tool it up with a little looser pocket… careful if you have fouling blow by you may introduce new stuck primer problems.

if it’s me I’m going with 2nd option
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Wait is 2nd option the rifle primer or the spare breech plug?

I have the CVA Wolf but haven’t experienced this particular issue. I did have to replace the firing pin assembly because it got fouled up and jammed.

I do like the Wolf though.
 
pesqimon said:
Wait is 2nd option the rifle primer or the spare breech plug?

I have the CVA Wolf but haven’t experienced this particular issue. I did have to replace the firing pin assembly because it got fouled up and jammed.

I do like the Wolf though.
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I had to send mine out to get the same thing last winter
 
Pull the firing pin every year. It’s really easy the firing pin bushing screws out with a flathead. Clean the pin and bushing lubricate and reinstall. I would scrape/clean the inside of the Bree h plug and if that didn’t stop your primer from sticking order a new one. Not really sure why you want a lighter load but I would try to stay in the 300 grain range and lighten my powder charge to 90 grains before dropping bullet weight. I would stay away from the power belt bullets also.
 
pesqimon said:
Wait is 2nd option the rifle primer or the spare breech plug?

I have the CVA Wolf but haven’t experienced this particular issue. I did have to replace the firing pin assembly because it got fouled up and jammed.

I do like the Wolf though.
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One of those cheap little primer forks
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Are you saying after shoot the gun the primer is tough to get out of the primer is a tight fit unfired?
When you pull the trigger you are causing an explosion of very light gauge metal that fills up the space of the breech plug. All primers are tight, or should be after you shoot them. Kind of like fire forming brass for a weatherby.
 
EricS said:
I would stay away from the power belt bullets also.
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Curious why you say this? Personally, I have had great results with power belts out of my CVA Optima. They shoot accurately and I have probably shot close to ten deer with power belts and all but 2 or 3 of them have dropped in their tracks. I rarely get an exit hole and when I have found the bullet in the deer they are perfectly mushroomed. They honestly perform almost perfectly for me.
 
GCTerpfan said:
Curious why you say this? Personally, I have had great results with power belts out of my CVA Optima. They shoot accurately and I have probably shot close to ten deer with power belts and all but 2 or 3 of them have dropped in their tracks. I rarely get an exit hole and when I have found the bullet in the deer they are perfectly mushroomed. They honestly perform almost perfectly for me.
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I think powerbelt suffers from the same thing Rage broadheads do.

We sold exponentially more Rage heads thsn anything else at the shop I worked at. They advertised extremely well, and made a good product. Lots of people shot Rage, which means lots of people lost deer with a Rage.

People generally do not report a product performing as advertised as well as a product failing. Combine that with the huge popularity, and you end up with lots of stories about Rage heads that didn't deploy.

I've shot rage and powerbelts. They both do fine. They are made more for convenience and user-friendliness than min/maxed performance (field tip accuracy for the rage, easy loading for the powerbelt) so I think that gets them a reputation as an amateurish projectile.

I would say stay away from shoulder bones if possible with both, but I'd generally say that regardless of projectile.
 
Powerbelts are great until they are not. Besides a few deer that traveled further than I am ok with after being hit with them, the final straw was shooting at 100 and 200 yds at the range and seeing 2+ in 10 fired striking the paper sideways instead of a hole. Immediately went back to 240 gr Hornady XTPs with zero issues. The key for any sabot bullet is to find the proper fitting sabot for your gun, and yes, there are many varieties, so you can find one that loads easily and still shoots accurately.
 
Im buying hornady sst 250 grains with 2 pellets that are 50 grains a piece.
they shoot well.
my problem is not any kind of load or bullet it's the dam primers getting stuck lol.
im ordering a puller like refrenced earlier and i think i will just replace the breech plug.
im wondering if its the kind of primer im using
Remmingtons
 
Robert loper said:
Im buying hornady sst 250 grains with 2 pellets that are 50 grains a piece.
they shoot well.
my problem is not any kind of load or bullet it's the dam primers getting stuck lol.
im ordering a puller like refrenced earlier and i think i will just replace the breech plug.
im wondering if its the kind of primer im using
Remmingtons
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For what it is worth I am ising Winchester triple se7en 209 primers with no sticking issues.

Also did your Wolf come with a soft case and some goodies in it? Mine had the primer extractor in there.
 
pesqimon said:
For what it is worth I am ising Winchester triple se7en 209 primers with no sticking issues.

Also did your Wolf come with a soft case and some goodies in it? Mine had the primer extractor in there.
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No it diddnt lol. I wish.
 
GCTerpfan said:
Curious why you say this? Personally, I have had great results with power belts out of my CVA Optima. They shoot accurately and I have probably shot close to ten deer with power belts and all but 2 or 3 of them have dropped in their tracks. I rarely get an exit hole and when I have found the bullet in the deer they are perfectly mushroomed. They honestly perform almost perfectly for me.
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I’ve shot several deer with powerbelts and had to grid search for every one of them. They were all down in 30-100 yards but when you can only see a few feet a blood trail is much appreciated. Some of those were with 200 grain and 245 grain. There’s a 295 out now that may be good. I bought a federal all copper bullet this year that shoots well but I haven’t gotten to test it out on game. I really like the 300 grain Hornady sst. Based on your experience I would say keep shooting them. I will say I am also shooting 90 grains of powder
 
I have the CVA Optima and have similar issues but its not a big deal. I use the primer extractor fork that came with the gun. I use Power Belt bullets and they work great with the magnum load of 150grns of pellets. Aren't Power Belts made specifically for CVA?? Im confident to 250yrds for sure with my Nikon BDC scope.
 
I was looking at the new Wolf 2.0s and noticed the different available breech plugs they sell. It appears they have a 209 breech plug, a quick release breech plug, and a NW conversion breech plug. I get the NW conversion, but I wasn’t really clear which of the other 2 came with the gun. And I thought traditional archery was complicated…
 
I have a wolf, I shoot the 200 grain shockwaves, 100 grains white hots (two pellets), and CCI muzzleloader primers and 'regular' 209 primers and have never had this issue. Great little inline's, lightweight and handy. Perfect for late season snow tracking.
 
I highly suggest a different bullet. The SST do not expand well and pencil really bad. If you want to stay with hornady I suggest switching to monoflex.

I use CCI primers in my Accura
 
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