@Slingpredator06 Nah, I am not caught up in the speed thing or anything. My concerns are shot placement, and the arrow going fast enough that when the deer slouches/ducks/crouches/whatever you call it at the sound of the bow it is too late for it, rather than the arrow going over or getting a spine. I always pulled 70 because I could without issue. I have a feeling that ain't the case anymore, even with good elbow. If I have to drop to 50, I will drop to 50.