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Deer Schools

You need to go to the February meeting of the the Southeast Deer Study Group. All of them will be there under one roof. You still have a few days to register. https://www.sedsg.msstate.edu/
It just occurred to me in thinking of this is Dr. Dave Samuel’s column in Bowhunter Magazine “Know Whitetails” has been well regarded for years too. He is easily accessible via email and responds readily to questions AND he typically summarizes the latest and greatest from this Study Group every year. I believe NAW does this as well.
 
Following. I’m not sure exactly what you’re trying to learn about deer behavior or human behavior as it relates to deer or both and I realize these are not primarily studying the south but it is the east and on public State game lands and most of their research is generic enough to apply to any region or area in my estimation. The folks at Penn State are doing a lot of good research with their Deer Forest Study which is supremely interesting to me. Cornell’s Human Dimension Unit studies hunter activity and assists our NYS DEC with hunter surveys, hunter, trapper surveys, game count surveys etc. Also NDA’s Kip Adam’s studied at the University of New Hampshire’s wildlife management program and speaking of the NDA they have a wealth of information as well. Ozoga’s stuff out of the University of Michigan is well regarded as is Dr. James Kroll’s and Dr. Grant Woods stuff. These are my off the cuff suggestions.
I didnt list Penn State and Cornell but when I mentioned the schools up north those are the 2 I was thinking of for sure. Definitely agree with Grant Woods as well. Kinda still got a burr under my saddle re: NDA and the crap they pulled when it was still QDMA. Closing the forums they way they did and wiping out decades worth of whitetail management knowledge should have gotten those in charge a full on beat down or at least some jail time. Thankfully at least most of Paul Knox's stuff was saved in other places but there were volumes of regionally specific land and critter management info that just got scattered in the wind.
 
I didnt list Penn State and Cornell but when I mentioned the schools up north those are the 2 I was thinking of for sure. Definitely agree with Grant Woods as well. Kinda still got a burr under my saddle re: NDA and the crap they pulled when it was still QDMA. Closing the forums they way they did and wiping out decades worth of whitetail management knowledge should have gotten those in charge a full on beat down or at least some jail time. Thankfully at least most of Paul Knox's stuff was saved in other places but there were volumes of regionally specific land and critter management info that just got scattered in the wind.
I did not realize this at all. So what is the "backstory" about the QDMA and NDA merger etc.? If you go on their site there is a lot of information but I didn't realize it was less overall than what was provided in the past!!!
 
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I guess I'm gonna derail my own thread. I'm not a big turkey guy, but I'm getting into it. What views do they have that are controversial?
That list is longer than I care to try to type out but I will give you a couple of examples. One is that if a mature tom is taken out during the breeding season that it takes weeks for the remaining males to establish breeding dominance thus breeding success is going to go down. Another would be nesting date. The claim is that turkeys in the southeastern US all hit peak nesting in mid-April, like the 17th or 19th or something. There are lots of other topics or issues where what they state as gospel flys so blantantly in the face of any logic for folks that have observed, studied and hunted turkeys for more than 5 minutes, it is absurd.
 
I did not realize this at all. So what is the "backstory" about the QDMA and NDA merger etc.? If you go on their site there is a lot of information but I didn't realize it was less overaull.
QDMA used to have a forum and deleted it. They were getting sponsorships and some of the sponsors didn't like forum members pointing out things about their companies that weren't liked or could be done without their products. A lot of other things went on as well like forum members not agreeing with certain stances by the QDMA on subjects. The forum members thought the QDMA was being pressured by agencies and sponsors in the wrong direction. So, QDMA deleted the forums. Years of info were lost. It would be almost like if this site had articles written and sponsors, but then pressure from those made saddlehunter.com delete these forums. You can see how it would leave a bad taste in one's mouth.
 
I did not realize this at all. So what is the "backstory" about the QDMA and NDA merger etc.? If you go on their site there is a lot of information but I didn't realize it was less overaull.
Before NDA was a thing QDMA had an active forum. Folks from all over the country shared their tips, best practices, things that worked and things that didnt work in their particular areas of the country as it related to habitat management. Soil health, trees, shrubs, NWS grasses, food plots, prescribed fire or any thing else you could think of was covered. It was a place where you read about and/or see the real world application of different techniques and tactics as folks implemented different things around the country. Anyway, they made a post announcing that on a date that seems like was only a few weeks out at the time, that they were pulling the plug on the forums and shutting it down. Some stuff got saved because folks set in to copying it to other platforms but an absurd amount of habitat knowledge just got zapped because they refused to save any parts of the forums.
 
QDMA used to have a forum and deleted it. They were getting sponsorships and some of the sponsors didn't like forum members pointing out things about their companies that weren't liked or could be done without their products. A lot of other things went on as well like forum members not agreeing with certain stances by the QDMA on subjects. The forum members thought the QDMA was being pressured by agencies and sponsors in the wrong direction. So, QDMA deleted the forums. Years of info were lost. It would be almost like if this site had articles written and sponsors, but then pressure from those made saddlehunter.com delete these forums. You can see how it would leave a bad taste in one's mouth.
This ^^^ was the politics involved in how it played out and paired with their actions why I will never support that organization again.
 
University of Delaware has ongoing studies. I could not find the link.
 
I guess I'm gonna derail my own thread. I'm not a big turkey guy, but I'm getting into it. What views do they have that are controversial?
Dr. Mike Chamberlain is defiantly the man in the know on wild turkeys. I may disagree with some of his ideas on judging age of turkey by spur length, but he is very knowledgeable and worth checking out.
 
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