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False crotch for SRT

MaxKE

MaxKE

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What is the most common solution being used for this? I'm looking for something that's public land legal. I want to run paracord through it and get my climbing rope up.

Could I just use a spare tether and leave it in the tree for this?
 
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If you climb a tree (2TC, sticks, one stick, etc) and want to leave a false crotch, you can tie a piece of paracord around the tree with a metal ring on it (like a rigging ring or something). Then you'd run your preset paracord through that ring and tie it off at the base of the tree.

When your ready to hunt, untie your preset line, connect one end to your climbing rope, use the other end to pull the climbing rope up and though the metal ring, and then girth hitch your climbing rope to the trunk of the tree. You may need to use your pull down rope and tail end of your climbing rope to work the girth hitch up the tree. Just walk away from the tree a bit will working both ends to get the girth to go up the tree easier. Once it's at the right height, weight the rope to tighten it up, then get connected and climb.

If you're trying to set a false crotch without climbing a tree first, I'm sure there's a way, but I haven't tried to figure that out yet!

And yes, you can use a spare tether to accomplish this too. But I'd be worried about the elements and animals messing with it, and then trusting it as a tether ever again. The false crotch isn't load bearing, so I don't care if a squirrel eats the paracord. I do care about my tethers since they are load bearing and holding me up in the tree.
 
Thanks. It would be for once I've already climbed via my one stick. My plan was to just return with a ROS in the future.

Do you happen to have a pic of the paracord with the ring concept ? I'm having difficulty visualizing that and I want to be 100% sure since this is safety related. Am I girth hitching the paracord through the ring?

Thanks again man
 
I rarely leave old tether lines up for fear of squirrel or raccoon chewing them up. I typically use a heavy duty eye to eye steel cable or a tow strap. When I do leave a rope up, I cover it with a thin plastic tubing to help protect it from UV degradation and from the critters chewing on it.
 
I was also going to strap a cheap bow hook to the tree and treat it as a branch.
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
I rarely leave old tether lines up for fear of squirrel or raccoon chewing them up. I typically use a heavy duty eye to eye steel cable or a tow strap. When I do leave a rope up, I cover it with a thin plastic tubing to help protect it from UV degradation and from the critters chewing on it.
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Are you running one end of the steel cable through the other eye? Or are you joining both ends with paracord ?
 
My beautiful paint skills here.

The orange is the false crotch paracord, tied around the tree at height with a ring.

Purple is your preset line, running through the false crotch ring, and then tied together on the other side of the tree. What's nice is once you have your climbing line pulled through the false crotch, you can then tie it to your quick link or tied loop on your climbing rope and use the preset line as your pull down line.

Blue is your climbing line after you've girth hitched it to the tree through the false crotch. Basically the ring is acting as a tree branch and is merely holding your rope at that height, while the tree trunk is taking your weight since your climbing line would be girth hitched around the tree trunk.

Your strap with a cheap bow hook would work the same way., it's merely keeping your preset, and eventually your climbing line, at that height. I would be careful of where you're girth hitch ultimately ends up on the tree.

In the second image, you could be putting load on the false crotch if you don't work your girth hitch high enough up the tree. Using the tail end of your climbing rope, and the tail end of your pull down rope (should be attached before pulling up the girth hitch!), walk backwards away from the tree and use those tail ends to shimy the girth hitch up the tree more.


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Empostarr said:
My beautiful paint skills here.

The orange is the false crotch paracord, tied around the tree at height with a ring.

Purple is your preset line, running through the false crotch ring, and then tied together on the other side of the tree. What's nice is once you have your climbing line pulled through the false crotch, you can then tie it to your quick link or tied loop on your climbing rope and use the preset line as your pull down line.

Blue is your climbing line after you've girth hitched it to the tree through the false crotch. Basically the ring is acting as a tree branch and is merely holding your rope at that height, while the tree trunk is taking your weight since your climbing line would be girth hitched around the tree trunk.

Your strap with a cheap bow hook would work the same way., it's merely keeping your preset, and eventually your climbing line, at that height. I would be careful of where you're girth hitch ultimately ends up on the tree.

In the second image, you could be putting load on the false crotch if you don't work your girth hitch high enough up the tree. Using the tail end of your climbing rope, and the tail end of your pull down rope (should be attached before pulling up the girth hitch!), walk backwards away from the tree and use those tail ends to shimy the girth hitch up the tree more.


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This is the perfect example. You can also use one inch cut off piece of PVC piping that is more stable/solid in the tree once you get it tight.
 
Empostarr said:
My beautiful paint skills here.

The orange is the false crotch paracord, tied around the tree at height with a ring.

Purple is your preset line, running through the false crotch ring, and then tied together on the other side of the tree. What's nice is once you have your climbing line pulled through the false crotch, you can then tie it to your quick link or tied loop on your climbing rope and use the preset line as your pull down line.

Blue is your climbing line after you've girth hitched it to the tree through the false crotch. Basically the ring is acting as a tree branch and is merely holding your rope at that height, while the tree trunk is taking your weight since your climbing line would be girth hitched around the tree trunk.

Your strap with a cheap bow hook would work the same way., it's merely keeping your preset, and eventually your climbing line, at that height. I would be careful of where you're girth hitch ultimately ends up on the tree.

In the second image, you could be putting load on the false crotch if you don't work your girth hitch high enough up the tree. Using the tail end of your climbing rope, and the tail end of your pull down rope (should be attached before pulling up the girth hitch!), walk backwards away from the tree and use those tail ends to shimy the girth hitch up the tree more.


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Awesome! Thanks man. I get it now. The climbing rope will actually cinch the ring against the tree in the process?
 
I set this up in my yard to play with when I was looking at presets. It is a bit overkill. I think it is 3/8 proof coil chain (5 ft) and a 1/2 inch quick link screwed down tight with a small wrench. The paracord loop goes through the quick link. I set it like this in this cedar since the sap is awful l on a rope pulling it over a branch. Not pubic land legal but on private you could just use a heavy duty spike in the tree on the backside of where you wanted to climb just like the ring idea above. Put it in at about a 45 degree angle up.
 

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MaxKE said:
Are you running one end of the steel cable through the other eye? Or are you joining both ends with paracord ?
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When I use the steel cable, I go eye through eye and let it cinch into the tree. The paracord method would use a larger ring such as a rappel ring. The paracord isn’t there to hold your weight, it only serves to hold the still so your rope can feed through and stay at height. From there you hitch a canopy anchor and it’ll be the weight support once it tightens to the tree. I have used that method before but I’ve also had squirrels and birds mess up the paracord and I end up losing a rappel ring. So I prefer larger chokers instead
 
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