First Mechanical Device Failure Tonight (Safeguard)

[boyne bowhunter]

Glad you are safe!
What rope are you using? I've noticed that sampson predator take significantly more "pull" on the safeguard handle than Sterling htp. Not sure if it's the diameter or material that makes the difference.

I'm using Teufelberger Tachyon (~11 mm). I have a rappel length of Predator but its not as radially stiff as the Tachyon so the rope collapses more under the pressure from the cam. IMO the Tachyon feels much smoother and consistent during the rappel and it's why I use it primarily. I have also used 10.5mm Teufelberger Platinum and it is very smooth running too.

 

[bj139]

Glad you are safe!
What rope are you using? I've noticed that sampson predator take significantly more "pull" on the safeguard handle than Sterling htp. Not sure if it's the diameter or material that makes the difference.

I have noticed that larger diameter ropes have more friction through all the belay devices.

 

[bj139]

I have tried the Munter hitch for rappeling and had difficulty holding the tag end. I figured out that by passing the tag end under my butt and up the other side I could easily rappel without undue arm strain while trying to prevent my self from hitting the ground

 

[GiGisDaddy]

Joe, glad you made it down safely!

Could you use a prusick with a tender to get down? I see where they are used instead (nylon bushing post) of a mechanical devise on linemans belts but curious if that would work to rappell? Would the tender help unbind the prusick for us "husky" fellers?

 

[boyne bowhunter]

Joe, glad you made it down safely!

Could you use a prusick with a tender to get down? I see where they are used instead (nylon bushing post) of a mechanical devise on linemans belts but curious if that would work to rappell? Would the tender help unbind the prusick for us "husky" fellers?

It might, its something I've never tried. My first instinct is that it won't help much though. The prusik just binds too much to be effective by itself for us big guys. I can say it does work well when used with an ATC though.

 

[pesqimon]

Joe, glad you made it down safely!

Could you use a prusick with a tender to get down? I see where they are used instead (nylon bushing post) of a mechanical devise on linemans belts but curious if that would work to rappell? Would the tender help unbind the prusick for us "husky" fellers?

A tender does not help coming down. Only helps to move the hitch up with one hand. It doesn’t necesario help unbind the hitch either.

 

[pesqimon]

Joe, glad you made it down safely!

Could you use a prusick with a tender to get down? I see where they are used instead (nylon bushing post) of a mechanical devise on linemans belts but curious if that would work to rappell? Would the tender help unbind the prusick for us "husky" fellers?

Although I agree that having an ATC is a better back up plan, you could use two prusik hitches to get down. One tied to saddle as you’d expect and the other to a foot loop. This is known as a texas system and can be done with hitches or ascenders.

 

[PJC]

I feel like I’m a kindergartner in a College calculus class. I have a lot to learn.


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[CZMark]

Although I agree that having an ATC is a better back up plan, you could use two prusik hitches to get down. One tied to saddle as you’d expect and the other to a foot loop. This is known as a texas system and can be done with hitches or ascenders.

I never thought about that. Great idea for a simple, lightweight, non-bulky, fairly easy-to-use backup system.