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Friction Hitches

Tough call between the the Bowie and sticht hitch, largely dependent upon rope diameter.

Getting back to my roots, I am thinking about 80’ rope, (2) hitches pre-rigged and SRT using those hitches.


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Switched back to my ringed distels this afternoon. Not sure the exact reason but I’m sure the rain and dampness has something to do with it, but the bowie cinched down as tight or tighter than a prusik. It took both hands breaking the wraps to slide it down.


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Apparently it‘s a good self tender under ideal conditions, thanks for the review. The loose left leg might have allowed the binding, a little fiddling produced the Bowie C, still self tends, and the left leg is locked down. I like like the symmetry of the bottom part.

Another self tender is the Knut H, the light tan RIT 900.

Another pitch for the Sticht, a new version of the replacing the ring with cord. Self tends without the piece of pipe in back, but does improve it.
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With the Sticht, how much pressure is applied to the front ring? In viewing the forces, it appears that your full weight is pushing against the ring and would need a ring capable of taking your weight X4 for dynamic loading, correct?
 
All your weight is pulling the twist, and the stopper on top it, through the ring. The load gets shared by the 4 sections of cord coming from the carabiner. There is some force trying to pull the ring apart, but it seems more force is directed to squeezing the rope against the ring. The ring of the Soft Sticht elongated some, but not much, the rest of the hitch prevents it from exerting more pressure.
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The bottom hitch shows how the eyes can be made for a horizontal carabiner configuration.
 
Found a welded ring that’ll work with oplux/resc-tech. #10x5/8

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Using 6mm accessory cord, 5/8” I.D. works for 8mm rope and 3/4” I.D. works for 9mm rope.

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The smaller rings are probably causing more friction then needed,if the twist doesn’t sit on the rope, the sections of cord on the top and bottom form a v shape, not more of a u shape if it contacts the rope.
I also think that tying the stopper in back might cause more unneeded friction than just having regular eyes.
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@Brocky i went with the Sticht hitch on both of my tethers for 2TC on this past weekends hunts. I’m not sure why but both of the hitches were so tight. They released under weight no problem and grabbed like they should, but the un-weighted friction took a decent amount of force to slide. Any ideas why this might be? This is a picture of it wrapped, this was scrunched up because it was pushed to the top to hold my bag when I wasn’t climbing. I typically do pull the ring down a little. The only way I could loosen it up to slide a little more freely was by pushing the bottom strands back through the ring to take off some of that pressure. If I’m having to push the stranded each time to make it slide easy it kind of outweighs the pros to using it since that’s what I have to do with most other friction hitches.Maybe I need to try that slider on the back side? Not really want to but that might be what it needs. Also I’m using 8mm on 11mm rope so I’m sure that’s affecting it as well.3B76B6B6-1B9A-4D04-A2A7-1CFB6E03634E.png
 
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The legs of the Sticht should be pushed through the ring, then pull on two top sections of the twist, shortens legs and adds slack above the twist. Next holding wraps, or have them gripping, pull down on the ring, this puts more separation between wraps and lower section. If adjusted too long it doesn’t grab as reliably. Also it looks like the eyes are crossed after exiting ring to be clipped? Probably adds unneeded friction. A tube tender in the twist improves the tending some more.
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@BTaylor that is a tied paracord, top on the picture, and some variations.
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Brocky said:
The legs of the Sticht should be pushed through the ring, then pull on two top sections of the twist, shortens legs and adds slack above the twist. Next holding wraps, or have them gripping, pull down on the ring, this puts more separation between wraps and lower section. If adjusted too long it doesn’t grab as reliably. Also it looks like the eyes are crossed after exiting ring to be clipped? Probably adds unneeded friction. A tube tender in the twist improves the tending some more.
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@BTaylor that is a tied paracord, top on the picture, and some variations.
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Is that top version a double fisherman in a loop configuration?
 
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