- Joined
- Oct 2, 2020
- Messages
- 1,589
The spray from the washer will dull the blade and can chip it. Once in a while might be okay but you should not make a habit of it.How so?
The spray from the washer will dull the blade and can chip it. Once in a while might be okay but you should not make a habit of it.How so?
Thought you meant a real knife or standard knife not replaceable blade. Told my wife I would never raise my hand to her but might hit her with a skillet if she ever put my knives in the dishwasher.The blade is disposable. It’s just easier than cleaning the gunk out of the handle of my Havalon.
If you want to ruin the temper on your good knives, stick them in the dishwasher. Prolonged and repeated exposure to super hot dishwasher temps, constant pattering of spray and degreasing agents, and it won’t be long before you’re wondering why your hardened steel Japanese santoku knife won’t hold an edge anymore and chips or rolls at the mere sight of an onion skin.
Anything tamped out of sheet steel and used for basic cooking chores (peeling potatoes, cutting sandwiches, etc), and costing less than $10 per knife might get put in a dishwasher on the regular because it’s already cheap and not necessary to sharpen.
Anything over $10 that required a legit forging process and a human bladesmith (or at least a competent mechanical bladesmith) doesn’t even hear me utter the word dishwasher around it.
I get answers ranging from 150F up to over 1000F. Lots of factors to consider. But tempering can start at like 175 I believe, so altering the temper could reasonably start at that temp. The steel itself will likely be raised to a higher temperature than the water in the dishwasher as well, and the temperature inside the metal would be nearly impossible to measure but likely higher than the surface of the steel as well. So if your DW is pumping 161 for a long period, the knife’s surface and edge will be at least that hot but likely hotter, and the inner steel structure hotter than that. Let’s say even just a 20 degree increase like you might see on a steak or something from surface to inside; at 181F you could reasonably expect to “alter” the temper, if not ruin it outright. But repeated hits in the DW like that? Deterioration inside the blade would be impossible to detect until it’s too late.My dishwasher heats to max 161F. What is the temp that alters temper?
You are correct, the folders (non-replaceable blades) like Flip n Zip all seem to be 8cr13mov and the fixed blades are 420j2. No wonder the FnZ is like twice the price of a full set of fixed blades. Thanks again for the heads up.I looked in to those fixed blade and noticed it wasn't the same steel as the flip and zip. Mine really holds and edge well and I was afraid the fixed blade might not.
Boil some water and let it cool for about a minute or so and then flush your knife with it and a drop of Dawn dish soap in the water. Take it out and rinse it with hot tap water then do it again in the pan of boiled water and dish soap, rinse again and if you still see some, do it one more time. This usually gets rid of all the caked on fat. Be sure to rub your wood handled knives with some boiled linseed oil so the hot water doesn’t dry the wood out too much.Continuation…
Like:
Swapped my 8mm to tether and 11mm to lineman’s like I threatened to do; man, so much better. My fingers are happier when I climb and my dump pouch and stopwatch are happier when I setup/tear down. Also, the RM1 was not really my thing on a tether but it’s A1-A on the lineman’s. Seriously, almost 5 years in the saddle and I just now figgered this out.
Dislike:
This pains me to say, because I really enjoy gutting deer with it, but I’m starting to get exhausted by my Outdoor Edge Flip ‘n Zip. It’s hella sharp, easy to resharpen, packs great, works easily…but it is a major PITA to clean. I have gutted three FAT deer (like literally fat, filled with white gobs and grease) and cleaning that crap out of the hinge and inner channels of the handle makes me question my sanity. I love the zipper blade portion especially, but I may try a set of OE fixed blades instead.
Louder, for the people in the back!Liked:
- Permethrin (for ticks)
I spent what felt like 15 minutes picking ticks off my cousin this rifle season. I hate ticks, that’s one creature I would endorse going extinctLouder, for the people in the back!
This was literally the first piece of gear the guy who taught me to hunt made me buy. Before the bow he set up for me, the camo, anything, he said come back with a bottle of permethrin and I’ll set up a bow for you.
That and seagulls.I spent what felt like 15 minutes picking ticks off my cousin this rifle season. I hate ticks, that’s one creature I would endorse going extinct
And labradoodlesThat and seagulls.