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Gender Dysphoria

Allegheny Tom

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I realize that political and social posts on this site are verboten. I hope this doesn't get me banned:grinning:
I took a video yesterday of a hen strutting (I made screen shots of the video, sorry I didn't get the camera focused sooner).

I've watched literally thousands of turkeys around my home over the years and I thought I'd seen just about everything a turkey does.
But I've never seen a hen strut.

So, I'm trying to figure out...Is this a hen identifying as a gobbler? Or is it a hen that had a bad gender reassignment like Dr Rachel Levine? Or is it a gobbler dressed up like a hen so he can use the girl's bathroom?

But seriously, have any of you turkey gurus ever seen a hen strutting?
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Apex7

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I seen hens strut quite a few times while deer hunting and also in the spring. I have a bunch of turkeys in my back yard hens and gobblers and the hens will strut . I even have 3 hens with beards . But they all will strut. It has to do with aggression. When they fill threatened they will strut and when they want to be aggressive.
 

Allegheny Tom

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I seen hens strut quite a few times while deer hunting and also in the spring. I have a bunch of turkeys in my back yard hens and gobblers and the hens will strut . I even have 3 hens with beards . But they all will strut. It has to do with aggression. When they fill threatened they will strut and when they want to be aggressive.
That does not surprise me but what does surprise me is that I've never seen it happen over countless hours of watching turkeys since they first showed up here around 1990.

And we always have a few bearded hens hanging around. Hens that need a shave doesn't seem to be very rare here.
 

TNSTAAFL

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Female dogs hump things, so it doesn't surprise me.
I was thinking the same thing. My parents had two female dogs (lab & golden), and the lab would frequently try to hump the golden (hip thrusts and all). Always wondered what the biology and dog psychology/sociology of all of that was.
 

raisins

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I was thinking the same thing. My parents had two female dogs (lab & golden), and the lab would frequently try to hump the golden (hip thrusts and all). Always wondered what the biology and dog psychology/sociology of all of that was.
If the DNA that controls that behavior is not on the Y chromosome (dogs have X and Y like humans except with differing codes), then both male and female dogs have the genetics for it but it probably interacts with testosterone (or something else distinctly "male") to switch it on more so in males.
 

Bwhana

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I've seen it a few times, but the best was while muzzleloader hunting one fall and I heard a large flock of birds fly down about 150 yds away on the opposite ridge. I had a turkey call app on my phone and started using the cutting and assembly yelp call back to them. The lead hen got so fired up she brought the whole flock of 25+ birds to the base of my tree and was strutting the whole time. The best part was when she saw me in the tree and I hit the call again and she gobbled several times. One pissed off turkey! Most fun I've had without pulling the trigger on a bird.
 

TK161BOONER

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I realize that political and social posts on this site are verboten. I hope this doesn't get me banned:grinning:
I took a video yesterday of a hen strutting (I made screen shots of the video, sorry I didn't get the camera focused sooner).

I've watched literally thousands of turkeys around my home over the years and I thought I'd seen just about everything a turkey does.
But I've never seen a hen strut.

So, I'm trying to figure out...Is this a hen identifying as a gobbler? Or is it a hen that had a bad gender reassignment like Dr Rachel Levine? Or is it a gobbler dressed up like a hen so he can use the girl's bathroom?

But seriously, have any of you turkey gurus ever seen a hen strutting?
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A few years back, my brother and dad were hunting together and a hen came in with a long beard and they both were strutting,the and the hen was gobbling. He videotaped the whole thing ,it was crazy to see a hen strutting and it was hilarious to watch her gobble, the long beard would gobble and then the hen would gobble with a high pitch.
 

TK161BOONER

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We also had a hen on our property with a 8” beard.
Different topic, but there also have been several doe killed with antlers also...
 

DMTJAGER

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Wow that is an incredible sight to behold indeed
Been turkey hunting 33 years
Seen hens attack huge Toms
Seen Toms and hens attack deer
Seen a Tom attack a cow
Seen Toms and Jake breed hens
Once saw two separate gangs of over 50 each of Toms during the second week of November spend about 10 minutes verbally acausting each other then wage all out war on each other in a massive Tom turkey rumble
Once even saw a roosted hen fall out of a tree make no effort to fly hit the ground get up stagger around and start alarm putting and run off evidently no worse for wear.
But never seen a hen exhibit male behavior
 

raisins

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Wow that is an incredible sight to behold indeed
Been turkey hunting 33 years
Seen hens attack huge Toms
Seen Toms and hens attack deer
Seen a Tom attack a cow
Seen Toms and Jake breed hens
Once saw two separate gangs of over 50 each of Toms during the second week of November spend about 10 minutes verbally acausting each other then wage all out war on each other in a massive Tom turkey rumble
Once even saw a roosted hen fall out of a tree make no effort to fly hit the ground get up stagger around and start alarm putting and run off evidently no worse for wear.
But never seen a hen exhibit male behavior
You've seen all that, but have you ever smelled the napalm in the morning?
 
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