Going back to flappers??

[boonez40]

Some of you guys are either outlaws or do not work to kill as many deer as you do. Or you have the dream job. Lol

I switched back to COC and have never been happier. I was pretty sick after losing a very nice buck to a mech failure. As some will tell you, shot angle, catch a rib, only one blade deploys, 400 grain arrow and the arrow will do a funky do. I never believed it and said BS many times but then it happened. I watched as the funky do happened at 17 yards and the arrow took a hard turn and came out the guts just before the rear legs.

Fast forward to another hard angle buck at 27 yards on high alert, he just about ran over me. I was grunting on the ground. He did not make it 20 yards. Blood trail was awesome.

Magnus Broadheads are awesome heads. I am spot on at 60 yards but I limit my shots to 30 and under.

Some of you guys may not be getting good blood trails for the fact you are shooting them to far back in the lungs with a COC. If you aim forward and hit the pumper, then it is full throttle on the pump flow. Even a Mech will not give good blood trail if you do not hit the pump switch.

This year I am going even heavier, I am going from 435 to 550. And I will still be at approx 310 fps.
I do not want to drop below 280 fps, so I can go as high as 700 grain arrow. That is if my math is correct. Chrono 400 grain arrow at 341 fps, lose 1 fps per 5 grains of arrow weight. So I should be safe to add 300 grains to the total arrow weight and stay around 280 fps

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[debowhunter]

Some of you guys are either outlaws or do not work to kill as many deer as you do. Or you have the dream job. Lol

I switched back to COC and have never been happier. I was pretty sick after losing a very nice buck to a mech failure. As some will tell you, shot angle, catch a rib, only one blade deploys, 400 grain arrow and the arrow will do a funky do. I never believed it and said BS many times but then it happened. I watched as the funky do happened at 17 yards and the arrow took a hard turn and came out the guts just before the rear legs.

Fast forward to another hard angle buck at 27 yards on high alert, he just about ran over me. I was grunting on the ground. He did not make it 20 yards. Blood trail was awesome.

Magnus Broadheads are awesome heads. I am spot on at 60 yards but I limit my shots to 30 and under.

Some of you guys may not be getting good blood trails for the fact you are shooting them to far back in the lungs with a COC. If you aim forward and hit the pumper, then it is full throttle on the pump flow. Even a Mech will not give good blood trail if you do not hit the pump switch.

This year I am going even heavier, I am going from 435 to 550. And I will still be at approx 310 fps.
I do not want to drop below 280 fps, so I can go as high as 700 grain arrow. That is if my math is correct. Chrono 400 grain arrow at 341 fps, lose 1 fps per 5 grains of arrow weight. So I should be safe to add 300 grains to the total arrow weight and stay around 280 fps

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Dream job here Bowhunting the last 37 years. The last 25 I have had 13 to 18 weeks off a year. Take 8 off for Archery and hunt 3 states. I work a crazy 12 hour rotating shift. Been slowing down the last couple years. I use to shoot a deer for anyone that wanted one. Now I try to get 6 or 7 for my family. Oh I also have never bought red meat from a store. I've been blessed to say the least.

 

[boonez40]

Dream job here Bowhunting the last 37 years. The last 25 I have had 13 to 18 weeks off a year. Take 8 off for Archery and hunt 3 states. I work a crazy 12 hour rotating shift. Been slowing down the last couple years. I use to shoot a deer for anyone that wanted one. Now I try to get 6 or 7 for my family. Oh I also have never bought red meat from a store. I've been blessed to say the least.

I wish I had a job like that but then the wife would just find more for me to do while she goes hunting

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[raisins]

Some of you guys may not be getting good blood trails for the fact you are shooting them to far back in the lungs with a COC. If you aim forward and hit the pumper, then it is full throttle on the pump flow. Even a Mech will not give good blood trail if you do not hit the pump switch.

This isn't true in my experience of killing many deer with a bow.

If you center punch the lungs with a decent mechanical or a fixed blade broadhead of medium to large size with either 3 or 4 blades, then you just have to walk to where the blood starts and you will be able to track the deer to where you find it dead in almost all cases. Many times, you can walk at a fairly brisk pace following either a consistent splatter or a large blood trail.

People think they are losing deer that they double lunged, but my belief is that they didn't hit them as well as they remember.

 

[boonez40]

This isn't true in my experience of killing many deer with a bow.

If you center punch the lungs with a decent mechanical or a fixed blade broadhead of medium to large size with either 3 or 4 blades, then you just have to walk to where the blood starts and you will be able to track the deer to where you find it dead in almost all cases. Many times, you can walk at a fairly brisk pace following either a consistent splatter or a large blood trail.

People think they are losing deer that they double lunged, but my belief is that they didn't hit them as well as they remember.

I understand, and I agree most people may not look at the rear hips of a deer and see how they are positioned in regards to how the vitals are orientated at the present stance and either shot to far back or hit to high up. I like to look at the opposite front leg and shot for the heart.

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[dougell]

I very rarely ever shoot deer in the heart and have watched 95+% of the last 100 or so deer drop.

 

[raisins]

I very rarely ever shoot deer in the heart and have watched 95+% of the last 100 or so deer drop.

Last one I watched drop was low lungs, went through the blood vessels out of the heart but didn't hit the heart. Ran 10 yards and started stumbling like it was drunk.

 

[1simplemann]

Last one I watched drop was low lungs, went through the blood vessels out of the heart but didn't hit the heart. Ran 10 yards and started stumbling like it was drunk.

Remember The dance Icky Woods on the Bengals used to do? When deer do what you describe, I call that the Icky Shuffle.

 

[Rg176bnc]

Stop the train. This is way more interesting than the rest of the thread.

Warren Womack is at something like 382 kills over 50 seasons I believe. That'a 7 deer a year or better for decades. My friends know well that I am bad about knowing everything, but when he talks I listen because you don't get to learn from a hunter of that caliber very often at all. That guy has a hunting club's worth of experience killing deer. I've hit 5 or more each year for the past 4 years or so, and 10 and 11 the past two, and it's honestly a little exhausting.

I don't wanna hijack this thread, but would you be willing to start a new thread talking about how you hit that 300+ mark? That's way more interesting to me than the usual noise about new gear and yet another way to climb a tree. I am very interested in knowing what drives folks to kill that way, the circumstances (work, family, land access, ect) that allow it, and the knowledge they accumulate killing so regularly and methodically.

Started one in the Deer Hunting section for ya. It will be a couple of installments. Work always ruins a good time lol.