still gotta stand on something. 3lb platform or 4.5lb 1 stick. ring of steps suck (you'll realize they suck when u spin out on a mature buck). And like all these people using tethers to climb and it's all good, until u drop something, then you're 25ft up (in my case, usually 30-35) a tree with a 10 ft rope. I think if you are shedding weight by dropping your rappel rope you are asking for a hard climb down. I put quietness, simplicity, speed, and duel use equipment over weight. At 26lbs I'm carrying my bow, 2lbs of optics, and 3 climbing methods- 1 stick, carbon bolts, and a hand climber for SRT. I climb up with all of it and rappel down with all of it. Haven't found a tree I wanted to climb that I couldn't with these things. that being said if I see a method that is better than what I'm using I'll try it, but 2TC ain't it. I can also 2TC with what I already carry so 4 climbing methods @26lbs. that's the thing about this forum, you can take from it what you can use and try/ leave the others