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[CrackbottomLouis]

How much does one of dano's sticks weigh? Nd how much are they? That looks even simpler than what I ws trying to come up with.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

How much does one of dano's sticks weigh? Nd how much are they? That looks even simpler than what I ws trying to come up with.

1.5 to 2 pounds depending on your post thickness and the Stand off used and the versa button or cam cleat used. I suggest a cam cleat for one sticking. And if you drill out the post. And the rope you use for the cam cleat or the strap you use for the versa button.
All these effect the final weight

I would recommend a cut down helium stick with a cam cleat and one step aider. The cheapest and 2.3 pounds

Or a lighter Dan O stick. With a cam cleat and some strong Dan O 6mm. - I forget the name of it - rope for the cam cleat
With his light stand offs and a drilled out 1/8 inch thick post
1.7 pounds
Or one heavy old muddy stick and an aider The simpler way to go
2.6 pounds
All will work

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[tim_dawg22]

You guys might have me convinced. Used a set of 4 helium’s with aiders for a couple seasons and got pretty good at it but they were always a pain to pack up after the hunt.

Been using WE with knaider/swaider exclusively this season and I love how high I can get from a small package but they are a pain to set and pack.

I think I’m gonna practice one stickin after this season. Has anyone put a cam cleat on a beast stick?


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[Ontariofarmer]

You guys might have me convinced. Used a set of 4 helium’s with aiders for a couple seasons and got pretty good at it but they were always a pain to pack up after the hunt.

Been using WE with knaider/swaider exclusively this season and I love how high I can get from a small package but they are a pain to set and pack.

I think I’m gonna practice one stickin after this season. Has anyone put a cam cleat on a beast stick?


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No but it should work fine


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[EricS]

Do y’all really find it worth rappelling down? I tried it with spurs a couple times this year and it was a pain to get my rope down. Not stuck in a crotch just girthed around the trunk like a tether. It was a pain to get loose and now I had 50’ of paracord to deal with along with 40’ 9mm htp.
I’ve considered trying 8mm with just a wrap and a half around the trunk and a double rope rappell. Seems like it would grip the tree plenty but be easy enough to get down. Yes you would have twice as much rope but no paracord. What do y’all think?

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Do y’all really find it worth rappelling down? I tried it with spurs a couple times this year and it was a pain to get my rope down. Not stuck in a crotch just girthed around the trunk like a tether. It was a pain to get loose and now I had 50’ of paracord to deal with along with 40’ 9mm htp.
I’ve considered trying 8mm with just a wrap and a half around the trunk and a double rope rappell. Seems like it would grip the tree plenty but be easy enough to get down. Yes you would have twice as much rope but no paracord. What do y’all think?

I have rappelled all year and use my Doyle’s hoist to pull it down

I have had trouble pulling it down too but I was hooking the Doyle’s hook to the tag end of the rope instead of to the carabiner on the rope or d ring. I always managed to get it down anyway
Of course the Doyle’s is easy to pack up.
The 8 mm Oplux is easy to pack too. I used 9 mm ultra tech rope at first which does not pack as well even though it is not much bigger it is bulky and too stiff. I was worried about using a safeguard with 8 mm rope but it seems to work fine and I have an auto block any how

I really like rappelling despite some issues retrieving the rope which I hope are solved




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[Gumbymedic]

This should help you.

I forgot to mention in the video that once I rappel down I remove the Safeguard and autoblock before pulling the rappel rope down. Also the only rope I mention in the video is 6mm, that’s the rope on my stick. I DO NOT RAPPEL ON 6mm line. That is way out of spec of the Safeguard.

Thanks for that video, very informative. I really like this system. Is that a 35cm Beal Jammy you're using?

 

[EricS]

I have rappelled all year and use my Doyle’s hoist to pull it down

I have had trouble pulling it down too but I was hooking the Doyle’s hook to the tag end of the rope instead of to the carabiner on the rope or d ring. I always managed to get it down anyway
Of course the Doyle’s is easy to pack up.
The 8 mm Oplux is easy to pack too. I used 9 mm ultra tech rope at first which does not pack as well even though it is not much bigger it is bulky and too stiff. I was worried about using a safeguard with 8 mm rope but it seems to work fine and I have an auto block any how

I really like rappelling despite some issues retrieving the rope which I hope are solved




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The Doyle’s just isn’t long enough. I’ve never not got it down but it’s required some snatching and jerking and when it finally loosened it sounds like I snatched the top of the tree out. The Oplux may be quieter.

 

[Davis21]

How long does it take to climb with the one stick method? I guess the trade off is less bulk/weight bs setup/climb time?

 

[CrackbottomLouis]

OP,
I'm in the same boat as you with sticks. For the cost of just the components to DIY and build a single stick is close to $80.00 and that doesn't include paint/finish, hardware, S&H or labor. Then to get a Beast Stick, you have to get on a waiting list, which I understand due to being a small business and a awesome product, supply and demand has been kick'n his ass. . .my hat is off to him. How he is able to supply a totally finished stick for $80.00 is pretty good in it's self to me. So, for me, two sets of 3 Hawk Heliums and a little modifing and $280.00 later, I'm at my desired hunting height, a light weight stable packable set of sticks and no waiting period . . .WIN WIN! Now, if I could ever get my hands the tree saddle I want I would be a very happy hunter!!!

How high do you hunt where you need 6 steps? 3 steps and one aider between ground and first stick gets me well over the height of my normal stands. Not knocking just wondering what terrain makes you need to get up that high out of interest.

 

[zacharypaul]

Does anyone have any experience using the one stick method while wearing enough clothes for 30 degree weather or below. Do you exert too much energy doing it enough to sweat? With using multiple sticks you can climb down and layer up, with the one stick method you’d need to put on all your layers before heading up the tree.


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[CrackbottomLouis]

Does anyone have any experience using the one stick method while wearing enough clothes for 30 degree weather or below. Do you exert too much energy doing it enough to sweat? With using multiple sticks you can climb down and layer up, with the one stick method you’d need to put on all your layers before heading up the tree.


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Unless you have clothes that go over your saddle. Been thinking on getting some second hand bibs and altering them to slip over the saddle letting the bridge pass through. When I hammock camp cold comes from the bottom because you are laying on all your insulation and compressing it. Thinking it will be the same for a saddle. Especially the mesh one I have on the x mas list. Mines leather right now so not as much of a concern. Getting in the tree and cooling off for a quick minute before donning my outer layers sounds appealing. Thinking bibs and jacket would be easiest to alter.

 

[Squirrels]

Thanks for that video, very informative. I really like this system. Is that a 35cm Beal Jammy you're using?

Yes sir

 

[Squirrels]

It’s not hard to pull rope down. If it seems difficult your probably doing something wonky.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

Does anyone have any experience using the one stick method while wearing enough clothes for 30 degree weather or below. Do you exert too much energy doing it enough to sweat? With using multiple sticks you can climb down and layer up, with the one stick method you’d need to put on all your layers before heading up the tree.


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Unless you have clothes that go over your saddle. Been thinking on getting some second hand bibs and altering them to slip over the saddle letting the bridge pass through. When I hammock camp cold comes from the bottom because you are laying on all your insulation and compressing it. Thinking it will be the same for a saddle. Especially the mesh one I have on the x mas list. Mines leather right now so not as much of a concern. Getting in the tree and cooling off for a quick minute before donning my outer layers sounds appealing. Thinking bibs and jacket would be easiest to alter.

I'm from northern Michigan. Just about every hunt I go on after Oct 20th is less than 30ºF . I hunt out of a Mantis (mesh) and wear bibs underneath. I typically pack my upper layers in and put them on once I'm in position in the tree. I can honestly say I've never gotten a cold bottom while saddle hunting. Fingers, toes, ears . . . yes, butt . . .nope.

This video was shot in January after the season ended. It was a nice day in the mid 20's and for the record I'm wearing my normal hunting gear for that weather.

 

[CrackbottomLouis]

I'm from northern Michigan. Just about every hunt I go on after Oct 20th is less than 30ºF . I hunt out of a Mantis (mesh) and wear bibs underneath. I typically pack my upper layers in and put them on once I'm in position in the tree. I can honestly say I've never gotten a cold bottom while saddle hunting. Fingers, toes, ears . . . yes, butt . . .nope.

This video was shot in January after the season ended. It was a nice day in the mid 20's and for the record I'm wearing my normal hunting gear for that weather.

Nice. I shouldn't have a problem in ga then. No need to over think it

 

[Ontariofarmer]

The Doyle’s just isn’t long enough. I’ve never not got it down but it’s required some snatching and jerking and when it finally loosened it sounds like I snatched the top of the tree out. The Oplux may be quieter.

Then extend the Doyle’s hoist with a shorter piece of para cord.


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[Squirrels]

How long does it take to climb with the one stick method? I guess the trade off is less bulk/weight bs setup/climb time?

I can be hunting in less than 10 minutes from the time I step within arms distance of the tree I want to hunt. Making 3 moves after the initial placement of my stick from the ground is putting my feet/platform at 22' pretty consistently.

 

[Squirrels]

Unless you have clothes that go over your saddle. Been thinking on getting some second hand bibs and altering them to slip over the saddle letting the bridge pass through. When I hammock camp cold comes from the bottom because you are laying on all your insulation and compressing it. Thinking it will be the same for a saddle. Especially the mesh one I have on the x mas list. Mines leather right now so not as much of a concern. Getting in the tree and cooling off for a quick minute before donning my outer layers sounds appealing. Thinking bibs and jacket would be easiest to alter.

This just isn't an issue for me and all I've ever hunted out of is mesh saddles. I've hunted into the teens with no problem. Your theroy is valid but in real world application is debunked from my experience. Other parts of your body will be so cold my the time your butt gets cold you would be long done anyway.

 

[Davis21]

I can be hunting in less than 10 minutes from the time I step within arms distance of the tree I want to hunt. Making 3 moves after the initial placement of my stick from the ground is putting my feet/platform at 22' pretty consistently.

That’s cool. How much trunk you move up at each move? Using a long aider?