Heavy arrow build thread

[Red Beard]

I started 1/4 high like the Easton manual suggests. I've been all over the place with it though now... lower... higher.

Regarding nock pinch, I don't think it's pinched. But, I haven't been using serving between the loop and the nock. Instead, I've been taking the bow away from my face a bit periodically and visually inspecting to make sure it's not tight. I know this isn't optimal but I've been moving my d-loop so much, tying serving has become a pain.

Guess I should say that I'm currently 1/4 low.

 

[loujo61]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I'm going to try them one by one.

@loujo61 Just took off 150gr from the tip with no noticeable effect.

If you have some throw on that rest try moving it back like an overdraw or forward and see if that affects it

 

[BTaylor]

Might be that rest needs to some pitch tuning.

 

[Squirrels]

Might be that rest needs to some pitch tuning.

I watched a buddy blowing a goose call in the blind one day.
Buddy blowing call says "how's that sound".
Other buddy said "not bad probably needs to a little pitch tuning".
Buddy blowing the calls says "I don't know how to do that".
Other buddy says "I can fix you up."
Buddy blowing call takes it off his lanyard and hands the call to other buddy. Other buddy immediately rares back and chunks call into the decoy spread of floaters. That's when the real sh*t went down. Laughed my rear end of for a good 20 minutes.

 

[Red Beard]

I watched a buddy blowing a goose call in the blind one day.
Buddy blowing call says "how's that sound".
Other buddy said "not bad probably needs to a little pitch tuning".
Buddy blowing the calls says "I don't know how to do that".
Other buddy says "I can fix you up."
Buddy blowing call takes it off his lanyard and hands the call to other buddy. Other buddy immediately rares back and chunks call into the decoy spread of floaters. That's when the real sh*t went down. Laughed my rear end of for a good 20 minutes.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[loujo61]

Notice how the arrow lifts and flexes through the biscuit hole on launch @ 0:48-1:20

 

[SnakeEater]

First test of new arrow build today. Took my bow for turkey and ended up shooting a hog (about 60#). My hit was much further back bc they were moving but went through like the pig wasn’t even there and stuck in a fallen tree. Got about a 1/3 rotation through the pig with cutthroat single bevels. She only went about 100 yards and shot wasn’t great. I’m sold.

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[weekender21]

Congrats on the porker!

60 pound pig isn’t much for a heavy arrow test though. Just sayin.


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[SnakeEater]

Congrats on the porker!

60 pound pig isn’t much for a heavy arrow test though. Just sayin.


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Lol yeah your right. But I shot the biggest of the group. I shot a pig with a twizler last year and it stuck out both sides and didn’t get a complete pass through and that pig was only 40# or so.

Hopefully I’ll find some bigger ones to test on, if I do I’ll be sure to post. First I need to get on some birds though.


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[weekender21]

Lol yeah your right. But I shot the biggest of the group. I shot a pig with a twizler last year and it stuck out both sides and didn’t get a complete pass through and that pig was only 40# or so.

Hopefully I’ll find some bigger ones to test on, if I do I’ll be sure to post. First I need to get on some birds though.


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Good luck with the thunder chickens!

I’ve arrowed 8 pigs/deer with my 580 grain arrows since January. I’m actually going a little lighter with my next arrow build. I’m a gear whore and it’s fun to experiment but I’m not hunting moose in 2020. My Iron Will tipped 580 grain arrows are overkill for any scenario I’ll find myself in. Still debating tip/insert weight but I’ll likely end up around 520 grains and 14% FOC.


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[SnakeEater]

Good luck with the thunder chickens!

I’ve arrowed 8 pigs/deer with my 580 grain arrows since January. I’m actually going a little lighter with my next arrow build. I’m a gear whore and it’s fun to experiment but I’m not hunting moose in 2020. My Iron Will tipped 580 grain arrows are overkill for any scenario I’ll find myself in. Still debating tip/insert weight but I’ll likely end up around 520 grains and 14% FOC.


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I’m at 560 with 21%foc but don’t plan on going any higher. I’m the same and just enjoy experimenting so not sure what I’m going to get into next with my bow.

Well done, you’ve been hammering critters. I feel like any more weight with these arrow set ups and I’ll need to find bigger game to hunt. 2021 I should be able to chase some elk but we’ll see. How did you arrows perform on those pigs and deer? Anything significant?


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[weekender21]

I’m at 560 with 21%foc but don’t plan on going any higher. I’m the same and just enjoy experimenting so not sure what I’m going to get into next with my bow.

Well done, you’ve been hammering critters. I feel like any more weight with these arrow set ups and I’ll need to find bigger game to hunt. 2021 I should be able to chase some elk but we’ll see. How did you arrows perform on those pigs and deer? Anything significant?


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The arrows performed like you’d think, easy pass throughs every time. I guess if I had to point out something significant it would be the blood trails left behind the Iron Will wide cuts...amazing.

Penetration was excellent but not any better than the 530 grain 14% FOC arrows I shot the past two years.

I’m definitely sticking with the iron wills. Outstanding blade retention and easily resharpened even after burying 15 inches in the dirt.


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[KyleND]

Today on my journey for heavy/high foc arrow I was bareshaft tuning. My easton axis 5mm 340s I get a total arrow weight bareshaft = 460gr. I was shooting bullet holes consistently with the exception of bad form shots. This was with a 3/16ths high nock point. When I tuned my easton 6mm hexx 260s 28 1/4 " with total arrow weight bareshaft =635gr. I noticed immediately I was nock high. My nock point ended up at about 1/32nd high for heavier arrow and may change after fine tuning to be square.
I am wondering if others have found this to be the same for them? That the lighter arrows like nock high and heavy like square.
I should also note that I am shooting a mathews creed which is a single cam bow. Maybe won't be same for dual cam bows.?
27.5 draw length
61#
FWIW shooting the ranch fairy field point test kit .i found i could have made the the axis 340s cut at 27.75 inches with 75gr. Insert and 300gr field point work. After nock tuning they to were also just nock high tears. I would think I was on the edge however.
I wanted the higher foc possibilities hexx arrow offers.

 

[ericabbott]

Today on my journey for heavy/high foc arrow I was bareshaft tuning. My easton axis 5mm 340s I get a total arrow weight bareshaft = 460gr. I was shooting bullet holes consistently with the exception of bad form shots. This was with a 3/16ths high nock point. When I tuned my easton 6mm hexx 260s 28 1/4 " with total arrow weight bareshaft =635gr. I noticed immediately I was nock high. My nock point ended up at about 1/32nd high for heavier arrow and may change after fine tuning to be square.
I am wondering if others have found this to be the same for them? That the lighter arrows like nock high and heavy like square.
I should also note that I am shooting a mathews creed which is a single cam bow. Maybe won't be same for dual cam bows.?
27.5 draw length
61#
FWIW shooting the ranch fairy field point test kit .i found i could have made the the axis 340s cut at 27.75 inches with 75gr. Insert and 300gr field point work. After nock tuning they to were also just nock high tears. I would think I was on the edge however.
I wanted the higher foc possibilities hexx arrow offers.

Could be the size difference in the arrows. I noticed that I had to retune my rest for different sized arrows. I’ve tested everything from a micro diameter VAP to a full sized Carnivore.

 

[KyleND]

Could be the size difference in the arrows. I noticed that I had to retune my rest for different sized arrows. I’ve tested everything from a micro diameter VAP to a full sized Carnivore.

I was thinking of that also and maybe I am confused but I thinking the bigger arrow(hexx) would have raised my arrow tip up a bit not down.

 

[Redoak47*]

I gots a 300spine black eagle with a 300 point tip to fly great, turned my bow up a half turn, and that did it.

 

[Jeremy_D]

Crazy to think about all the science and technology we use yet back in the day they killed them with a branch and a carved rock...carved with a rock

 

[hokiehunter373]

Not trying to hijack this thread but I know there’s a bunch of cutthroat users in here if you have any tips on sharpening and could share I’d appreciate it

HELP - Single Bevel KME sharpening

HELP - Single Bevel KME sharpening

Here’s what I’ve got: KME kit 3 stones Strop Cutthroats What am I doing wrong? I can’t seem to get a burr. Do you all use forward or back strokes? Both? Obviously start course and work to fine then strop. How many passes do you find is usually enough? Please give me your tips and tricks...

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[MathewsMan7]

Crazy to think about all the science and technology we use yet back in the day they killed them with a branch and a carved rock...carved with a rock

I had this exact thought last week...It really is something!

 

[Bowmanmike]

I bet the old hunter gatherers had the skills to make just about anything work for them. No distractions,i.e. work and also their survival depended on it. You can accomplish a lot in that situation.