HHA One Pin sight

[Buchholz06]

Any of you compared the HHA to. Spot Hogg Fast Eddy 2 pin? If so, thoughts?

 

[Drslyr]

HHA Kingpin lite here. Love it. Regularly practice at 90 and 100 yds. Makes 50 and 40 a chip shot. I shoot a screaming bow 318 FPS. So u set at 25 yds. And kill 10 to 40 without moving or worrying about the set distance.This was 90 yds.

 

[Buchholz06]

That's what I'm striving for. Nice shooting and thanks for the feedback.

 

[Apex7]

View attachment 4509 HHA Kingpin lite here. Love it. Regularly practice at 90 and 100 yds. Makes 50 and 40 a chip shot. I shoot a screaming bow 318 FPS. So u set at 25 yds. And kill 10 to 40 without moving or worrying about the set distance.This was 90 yds.

My 3d bows shoots 307 and one pin will not work from 10 yards to 40. The arrow will drope way to much to hold a 25 yard pin at 40 yards and expected to hit dead center just like you would at 25 yards. It is simple physics.

 

[Apex7]

I also shoot a HHA 5519. Great sight.

 

[Drslyr]

I guess I was unclear. I set the pin at 25yds. and slightly raise or lower my aiming point depending on the distance. Shooting a super fast bow allows a small amount of pin movement up or down and still allows a good hit. Beyond 40yds is where you need to have an accurate range. I'm not ranging the animal just guesstimating the range and holding a little high or low with the pin set at 25yds.I think he was talking about having to move the pin in a high pressure hunting situation. My point was that you can set the sight at 25yds. and still ethically kill 10 to 40.

 

[Stickem]

Generally i set mine and keep it locked at 25 yards as well. I haven’t taken a shot outside 25 yet. But if i have time ill move my site to do it.


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[Apex7]

I guess I was unclear. I set the pin at 25yds. and slightly raise or lower my aiming point depending on the distance. Shooting a super fast bow allows a small amount of pin movement up or down and still allows a good hit. Beyond 40yds is where you need to have an accurate range. I'm not ranging the animal just guesstimating the range and holding a little high or low with the pin set at 25yds.I think he was talking about having to move the pin in a high pressure hunting situation. My point was that you can set the sight at 25yds. and still ethically kill 10 to 40.

I understand that but how much does your arrow drop at 40 yards with your 25 yard pin held dead center ? How much does your arrows weigh ? Just curious. We shoot a clout round at our Sportsman's Club. We shoot at a 180 yards it's a lot of fun. 3 arrows at a time closest to the flag gets the most points . 30 arrows total.

 

[Stickem]

I understand that but how much does your arrow drop at 40 yards with your 25 yard pin held dead center ? How much does your arrows weigh ? Just curious. We shoot a clout round at our Sportsman's Club. We shoot at a 180 yards it's a lot of fun. 3 arrows at a time closest to the flag gets the most points . 30 arrows total.

I’m not really sure my drop but its not much I shoot 68# and my arrows are 300 grains.

 

[Deleted member 2228]

the bad thing with any moveable sight is that your anchor point moves (this is for peep sight shooters only). some may disagree but think about it. your pin and housing moves up or down and your peep don't move. therefore the only way to center the pin and housing back up in your peep is to move your anchor point. I personally wouldn't use one.

 

[GCTerpfan]

the bad thing with any moveable sight is that your anchor point moves (this is for peep sight shooters only). some may disagree but think about it. your pin and housing moves up or down and your peep don't move. therefore the only way to center the pin and housing back up in your peep is to move your anchor point. I personally wouldn't use one.

All of my hunting and shooting with a vertical bow has been traditional. I have never shot a bow with sights so this may be a dumb question but, why would a movable pin be different than multi pins as far as you anchor is concerned. Whether you move the pin to a new location or already have another pin set at that location, wouldn't it be the same thing?

 

[Apex7]

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the bad thing with any moveable sight is that your anchor point moves (this is for peep sight shooters only). some may disagree but think about it. your pin and housing moves up or down and your peep don't move. therefore the only way to center the pin and housing back up in your peep is to move your anchor point. I personally wouldn't use one.

If that was the case I wouldn't be able to hit a egg at 50 yards. I use to shoot alot of 3d and a moveable sight is all I used and everyone that shoots in a class that allows moveable sights use them . Your anchor point and form should be the same. For hunting I use a pendulum sight with no problem. Anchor point doesn't change.

 

[Guff Dawg]

I also shoot a HHA 5519. Great sight.

Love my 5510. Thinking of spending some coin and upgrading to their Tetra model line

 

[Deleted member 2228]

All of my hunting and shooting with a vertical bow has been traditional. I have never shot a bow with sights so this may be a dumb question but, why would a movable pin be different than multi pins as far as you anchor is concerned. Whether you move the pin to a new location or already have another pin set at that location, wouldn't it be the same thing?

The housing of the sight is suppose to fit the peep that a person is using. ask yourself a simple question, can you draw a straight line and connect 3 points even though the front point (the sight housing) moves up and down. the answer is no. you will have to move the back point (your eye) up if you want to lower the front point to keep a straight line. the anchor point slightly will change depending on how much the housing moves.
for those that cant understand that, draw it out on paper.

 

[Deleted member 2228]

If

If that was the case I wouldn't be able to hit a egg at 50 yards. I use to shoot alot of 3d and a moveable sight is all I used and everyone that shoots in a class that allows moveable sights use them . Your anchor point and form should be the same. For hunting I use a pendulum sight with no problem. Anchor point doesn't change.

shooting a egg at 50 yards has nothing to do with what im referring to

 

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[pilgrimhunter]

The housing of the sight is suppose to fit the peep that a person is using. ask yourself a simple question, can you draw a straight line and connect 3 points even though the front point (the sight housing) moves up and down. the answer is no. you will have to move the back point (your eye) up if you want to lower the front point to keep a straight line.
for those that cant understand that, draw it out on paper.

In theory I believe you are correct. It is however very slight. Not going to argue though that there is some movement perhaps.
If it is as bad as you say why does the majority of tournament archers use a single pin sight?

Personally I feel I gain more through always having my pin centered in my sight housing, clearer sight picture, and being able to hold dead on target (rather than pin gap) that I gain more accuracy than I lose. On the other hand i am expirmentibg with a 2 pin movable to give me some flexibility if a deer moves closer or farther while @ full draw..

Not trying to start an argument just giving another personal perspective.

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[Deleted member 2228]

In theory I believe you are correct. It is however very slight. Not going to argue though that there is some movement perhaps.
If it is as bad as you say why does the majority of tournament archers use a single pin sight?

Personally I feel I gain more through always having my pin centered in my sight housing, clearer sight picture, and being able to hold dead on target (rather than pin gap) that I gain more accuracy than I lose. On the other hand i am expirmentibg with a 2 pin movable to give me some flexibility if a deer moves closer or farther while @ full draw..

Not trying to start an argument just giving another personal perspective.

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I never said it was a lot of movement. but it WILL change your anchor point slightly.
Im just a engineer that has shot comp and hunting.
just because joe blow shoots a 1 pin or even a 7 pin. that doesn't mean its the best choice fo everyone.. it just means its the best choice for him in his own judgment

 

[GCTerpfan]

The housing of the sight is suppose to fit the peep that a person is using. ask yourself a simple question, can you draw a straight line and connect 3 points even though the front point (the sight housing) moves up and down. the answer is no. you will have to move the back point (your eye) up if you want to lower the front point to keep a straight line. the anchor point slightly will change depending on how much the housing moves.
for those that cant understand that, draw it out on paper.

I'm with you on the geometry and understand what you are saying but, I just don't understand why it doesn't also apply to a multi pin setup. Add a pin above or below the center pin in your drawing and you can't line either one of them up without also changing your anchor. What am I missing?

 

[d_rek]

Eh, been shooting a single pin slider for 4+ years now. No issues with anchor changing, or POI changing at different yardages so long as the sight is setup properly. I think you're fishing for an argument against sliding sights and, while what you claim might technically be true, it doesn't affect performance in the field.